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  • 3rd Viennese School

    #61
    Classical Heart FM.

    I think another piece by Richard Strauss should go here. And then some more impromptus by Shubert, Chopin, etc etc.

    Talking of Bax of delights. When's the last time you heard a Bax symphony played on Radio 3? I'm exploring them and they are quite good.

    3VS

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    • mangerton
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3346

      #62
      Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
      Perhaps they think Radio 3 listeners can't find Radio 2, or vice versa. It does seem completely pointless and a waste of airtime to broadcast the same thing on both stations. Can you imagine BBC1 and 2 showing exactly the same programme at the same time?
      Mr Pee, I agree totally with your sentiment, but I'm afraid it's only too easy to "imagine BBC1 and 2 showing exactly the same programme at the same time".

      B****y Wimbledon. And it's on the HD channel too.

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        #63
        not showing the same match simultaneously though

        come on Murray

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        • Bax-of-Delights
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 745

          #64
          Originally posted by 3rd Viennese School View Post
          Classical Heart FM.

          I think another piece by Richard Strauss should go here. And then some more impromptus by Shubert, Chopin, etc etc.

          Talking of Bax of delights. When's the last time you heard a Bax symphony played on Radio 3? I'm exploring them and they are quite good.

          3VS
          Well, many moons ago that's for sure...but come August at the Proms we do have No.2 appearing. Strangely, the Prom site highlights the Barber Adagio and the Bartok Piano Concerto ("explore Bartok's music") but apart from listing the Bax Symphony makes no other mention of it. Odd that, especially as this is the Proms Premiere of the 2nd - NEVER played before.
          Yuja Wang makes her Proms debut as Andrew Litton presents an international programme with strong American connections.


          A few seats still left.

          Suffolkcoastal: I just knew that mentioning Nielsen's 6th would bring up a repsonse that it had been played quite recently. How come I keep hearing the same old, same old (Faure Pavane encore) and miss the interesting stuff?
          O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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          • Suffolkcoastal
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3290

            #65
            I'm sure there's been a Bax symphony broadcast this year, I'll check when I get home. Do I detect a new trend on Breakfast, as didn't we have the 3rd movt of Shostakovich's 2nd PC the other day and now we have the 2nd movt, I expect the 1st movt will follow shortly. The Musical Clock movement along with the Intermezzo are the two movements that seem to turn up regularly from the Hary Janos Suite, the former movement is only 2 mins long, they could have played at least one more movement! Today's Hungarian Dance is making it a tight race between Hungarian and Slavonic to be first to the half century of broadcasts this year (I think Slavonic is on 49 and Hungarian on 46, but I'll check later). BoD I believe the Nielsen was actually part of a live concert!

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            • aeolium
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3992

              #66
              BoD I believe the Nielsen was actually part of a live concert!
              Yes, sc, with the LSO conducted by Colin Davis on Thursday 2 June, also with Uchida playing Beethoven PC 1:

              From the Barbican, London, Colin Davis conducts the LSO in Haydn, Beethoven and Nielsen.


              (you may also be interested to note the error in the first line of the programme description)

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              • Suffolkcoastal
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3290

                #67
                Yes aeolium yet another of the website's seemingly endless stream of errors, actually the brief description is pretty naff too. Still it was good that Sir Colin programmed the symphony. The 4th & 5th and to a lesser extent the 2nd have occasional airings on R3, but the 6th along with 1st & 3rd seem to be much less well served on radio.

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                • Suffolkcoastal
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3290

                  #68
                  Just checked and there hasn't been any Bax symphonies broadcast so far this year (50% of the Bax broadcast has been, you guessed it, Tintagel), mind you until a couple of weeks nor had any of the Elgar symphonies been broadcast either and when one was it was tucked away on TTN. My memory for the Slavonic and Hungarian Dances numbers was correct.

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                  • Bax-of-Delights
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 745

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                    Just checked and there hasn't been any Bax symphonies broadcast so far this year (50% of the Bax broadcast has been, you guessed it, Tintagel), mind you until a couple of weeks nor had any of the Elgar symphonies been broadcast either and when one was it was tucked away on TTN. My memory for the Slavonic and Hungarian Dances numbers was correct.
                    I'd be in interested to see what the other 50% of Bax was. Garden of Fand and Novermber Woods would be a fair proportion of the other half I'd guess...
                    O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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                    • Suffolkcoastal
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3290

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                      I'd be in interested to see what the other 50% of Bax was. Garden of Fand and Novermber Woods would be a fair proportion of the other half I'd guess...
                      Actually the rest of the Bax (20 or so (I'll have to check the exact number later) pieces/extracts in total) has been a mixture of shortish works including Maytime in Sussex and one of the two piano works I can't quite remember if its was The Devil that tempted St Anthony or The Poisoned Fountain.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #71
                        I should think Islamey gets played pretty often, but if it's that terrific Liapunov arrangement just breakfasted I don't think I mind too much

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                        • old khayyam

                          #72
                          So last night i heard a discussion programme asking us to reconsider Annunzio Mantovani as a serious composer!

                          I think it is clear which way the wind is blowing..

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                          • Suffolkcoastal
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3290

                            #73
                            I wonder how long it will be before R3 commissions people to rewrite more dissonant works, smoothing out any harmony that is too astringent and attempting to simplify the whole? Can you imagine The Rite recomposed by Rutter, Hawes, K Jenkins or Einaudi or serial Schoenberg or Webern with the serialism take out?

                            Talking about Breakfast, looking at tomorrow's pre-playlist, it looks even more dire than usual.

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                            • old khayyam

                              #74
                              Its been achieved quite effortlessly over the years in the fields of pop and rock. It would be a mammoth undertaking for some of the works you mention.

                              Many cheap studio orchestras have blanded great works, but it would be interesting to hear them have a stab at Arvo Part's Te Deum! Easy to replicate musically - maybe - but only the devil himself could ignore the required emotion.

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                              • Frances_iom
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 2413

                                #75
                                Originally posted by old khayyam View Post
                                So last night i heard a discussion programme asking us to reconsider Annunzio Mantovani as a serious composer!

                                I think it is clear which way the wind is blowing..
                                it's been on the cards for some times - there was a dire concert by some woman 'composer' who thought that J S Bach's music could be improved by sufficient percussion - it was intended as the first of a series of such concerts (brought to you by RW) but so dire that subsequent concerts binned - the percussion should have been applied to her and to RW.
                                The barbarians are well inside the gates.

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