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  • Norfolk Born

    Originally posted by mercia View Post
    nice one on breakfast this morning. Text in to give a name to Beethoven op 70 no 2, the trio that isn't The Ghost

    wasn't this the one they got into a bit of a muddle over the other day?

    Radio 3 sending itself up?
    Was such a spirited performance?

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    • Word
      Full Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 132



      Originally posted by mercia View Post
      nice one on breakfast this morning. Text in to give a name to Beethoven op 70 no 2, the trio that isn't The Ghost

      wasn't this the one they got into a bit of a muddle over the other day?

      Radio 3 sending itself up?

      It's good to see that the presenters have a sense of humour even if that's not always the case with their listeners.

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      • Panjandrum

        Originally posted by Word View Post




        It's good to see that the presenters have a sense of humour even if that's not always the case with their listeners.
        No doubt some listeners would ROTFL if the jocks started hurling custard pies at each other and the guests.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30318

          Originally posted by Word View Post




          It's good to see that the presenters have a sense of humour even if that's not always the case with their listeners.
          Heh, heh! One intriguing thing: it would have lost its point totally if they hadn't been well aware that the original announcement Had Been Noticed!
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            So they do read us after all then ?

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            • Word
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              • Jan 2011
              • 132

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Heh, heh! One intriguing thing: it would have lost its point totally if they hadn't been well aware that the original announcement Had Been Noticed!
              Oh yes, undoubtedly. I think poking a little friendly fun at some of the posts on here was part of the humour .

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30318

                Originally posted by Word View Post
                Oh yes, undoubtedly. I think poking a little friendly fun at some of the posts on here was part of the humour .
                I don't

                Laughing at oneself is so much more endearing than laughing at other people's expense
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Norfolk Born

                  Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                  No doubt some listeners would ROTFL if the jocks started hurling custard pies at each other and the guests.
                  Are you using ROTFL in its regular sense of 'Regular Old Text Formatting Language', or the more esoteric 'Rasch Obige Teilerkenntnis Frenetisch Lobend'?
                  Or is this a cleverly disguised further 'dig' at 'a certain presenter'?

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30318

                    I think in its regular sense of Roll On The Floor Laughing.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Norfolk Born

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      I think in its regular sense of Roll On The Floor Laughing.
                      (I did realize that, but thanks anyway. I was just hoping that 'a certain Forum member' might rise to the challenge of showing us how 'a certain presenter' should do her job).

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30318

                        Oh, so sorry . You asked "Or is this a cleverly disguised further 'dig' at 'a certain presenter'?" but I couldn't see that there was any connection.

                        I thought it was just the point that some people will laugh at anything (even, possibly, at people being critical), even if it's not funny and not even intended to be. One could dissect it further but that would destroy the slenderly graceful element of humour that was referred to in mercia's original remark
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Word
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 132

                          Originally posted by Ofcachap View Post
                          Are you using ROTFL in its regular sense of 'Regular Old Text Formatting Language', or the more esoteric 'Rasch Obige Teilerkenntnis Frenetisch Lobend'?
                          Or is this a cleverly disguised further 'dig' at 'a certain presenter'?
                          Arf!

                          (Sorry . Presumably Panjandrum's use of outdated Internet/text 'speak' was to contrast with Ms Walker's more contemporary phraseology but even the uncool kids no longer LOL .)
                          Last edited by Word; 20-05-11, 19:37.

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                          • antongould
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8791

                            Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                            For me, saly, it all comes back to the comparison with cricket.

                            ]
                            Perhaps it does all come back to a comparison with Cricket but in a different way - in the 50s and early 60s the proper game of cricket many of us love was dying, no one was watching the 3 day county game and test match crowds were falling. The introduction of one day or now even shorter games effectively saved cricket - you could say very little real cricket remains but it is still here! What one day cricket did was to bring in new spectators lots of them and some now follow the 3/4 day game.

                            Without new spectators/listeners in this commercial world we have what we love will be gone and if short sharp snippets of slogging/popular pieces save something is it not a price that has, sadly, to be paid?

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30318

                              It's an enticing argument, antongould. But where is the evidence that R3's audience was similarly declining? (apart from some hefty falls in the immediate wake of some of the recent changes). And if one is referring to the audience for classical music, rather than the audience for R3, wouldn't more promotion and coverage on mainstream channels be more effective in building a new audience than lowering the standards of R3? Shouldn't the BBC's classical music station cultivate a knowledgeable audience while Classic FM provides the lighter entertainment?

                              A second point is that whereas new listeners to R3 for the classical music are very welcome, are the methods increasingly being used (personalities/celebrities, 'favourites', undemanding pieces) the only possible methods and are they the best methods for building a knowledgeable audience?
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Norfolk Born

                                Originally posted by antongould View Post
                                Perhaps it does all come back to a comparison with Cricket but in a different way - in the 50s and early 60s the proper game of cricket many of us love was dying, no one was watching the 3 day county game and test match crowds were falling. The introduction of one day or now even shorter games effectively saved cricket - you could say very little real cricket remains but it is still here! What one day cricket did was to bring in new spectators lots of them and some now follow the 3/4 day game.

                                Without new spectators/listeners in this commercial world we have what we love will be gone and if short sharp snippets of slogging/popular pieces save something is it not a price that has, sadly, to be paid?
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