Regional accents- the last straw.

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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    In what way is it phoney?
    Because (like some folks I went to school with who sound like the comedian John Bishop) it's an affectation.

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    • jean
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      • Nov 2010
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      Never mind the folks you went to school with -what do you sound like? That's what I want to know.

      Anyway, RR didn't go to your school, or to any school anywhere near Liverpool - I read that The family moved to London when Robert was a toddler, settling in the south London suburb of Malden.

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12766

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        Because ... it's an affectation.
        ... so, if you happen to be born into a family speaking RP, what should you do? Should I 'affect' a different accent so as to escape your criticism?

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... so, if you happen to be born into a family speaking RP, what should you do? Should I 'affect' a different accent so as to escape your criticism?
          You should definitely go electrocution lessons with Alexi Sayle and stay indoors until you have eliminated all traces.

          Different people sound different and it's great to hear a variety of voices on the radio.

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          • Mary Chambers
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1963

            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... so, if you happen to be born into a family speaking RP, what should you do? Should I 'affect' a different accent so as to escape your criticism?
            This is what I was wondering. People used to be apologetic about having regional accents. Is it necessary for them now to be apologetic about not having one? Believe it or not, there are people from all over Britain who have always spoken RP.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
              This is what I was wondering. People used to be apologetic about having regional accents. Is it necessary for them now to be apologetic about not having one? Believe it or not, there are people from all over Britain who have always spoken RP.
              RP is an accent.
              The idea that it's somehow 'default English' is one that is thankfully in the past IMV

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              • jean
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                RP is an accent.
                I don't think anyone here has claimed that it isn't.

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                • Mary Chambers
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1963

                  It is an accent, perhaps, but not a regional one.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20569

                    Originally posted by jean View Post
                    Never mind the folks you went to school with -what do you sound like? That's what I want to know.
                    He speaks passable RP, with very little Scouse or Estuary.

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                    • jean
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      Interesting! When you say passable, I suppose you mean he passes...for what, exactly?

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                      • jean
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7100

                        Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                        It is an accent, perhaps, but not a regional one.
                        No, it's really a class one.

                        (I have arguments with OH who I say hasn't got a Liverpool accent because she was sent away to school; she claims, possibly truthfully, that she spoke like that before she went to school, because her parents did. But I've no means of checking.)

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20569

                          Originally posted by jean View Post
                          No, it's really a class one.

                          (I have arguments with OH who I say hasn't got a Liverpool accent because she was sent away to school; she claims, possibly truthfully, that she spoke like that before she went to school, because her parents did. But I've no means of checking.)
                          I know very many people in Manchester, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield and York who have not been away to school, who are unaffected RP speakers.

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                          • Mary Chambers
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1963

                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            RP is an accent.
                            The idea that it's somehow 'default English' is one that is thankfully in the past IMV
                            It is 'default English' in dictionaries.

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                              It is 'default English' in dictionaries.
                              I've never heard one speak

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                              • MrGongGong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                He speaks passable RP, with very little Scouse or Estuary.

                                Stalking is a criminal offence,I think?

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