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  • AuntDaisy
    Host
    • Jun 2018
    • 1663

    #61
    Originally posted by hmvman View Post
    I look at that page and could weep...!
    I agree.

    Another sad thing is that of that whole R3 listing, only "Teaching Young Readers: 5.Writing" was presereved, AFAIK, in the BBC Archives.
    Yes, I know that the BBC broadcasted enormous amounts of "stuff", and it was impractical to save it all (and quite a lot of it might not have been worth saving) - but still...

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    • smittims
      Full Member
      • Aug 2022
      • 4186

      #62
      Thanks, auntDaisy. The most striking thing for me is that all the music broadcast seems to have been of colmplete works all day long , no snippets.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30321

        #63
        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        Thanks, auntDaisy. The most striking thing for me is that all the music broadcast seems to have been of colmplete works all day long , no snippets.
        Ah, yes, but in those days it was on gramophone records. Now it's ...
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • AuntDaisy
          Host
          • Jun 2018
          • 1663

          #64
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Ah, yes, but in those days it was on gramophone records. Now it's ...
          Gramophone records

          TS (Transport Stream)?? WAV files??

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          • hmvman
            Full Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 1110

            #65
            Yes, I suppose it was a lot harder to pick out one track from an LP record, although they would've had cueing devices and quick-start turntables.

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9218

              #66
              Originally posted by hmvman View Post
              Yes, I suppose it was a lot harder to pick out one track from an LP record, although they would've had cueing devices and quick-start turntables.
              And weren't afraid of silences between items.

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              • hmvman
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1110

                #67
                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                And weren't afraid of silences between items.
                In those days I think they positively relished them.

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9218

                  #68
                  Originally posted by hmvman View Post

                  In those days I think they positively relished them.
                  It was how you knew you'd tuned into R3 - if there was silence when you turned the radio on.

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                  • hmvman
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1110

                    #69
                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                    It was how you knew you'd tuned into R3 - if there was silence when you turned the radio on.
                    Ha, ha! So true.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37703

                      #70
                      Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                      It was how you knew you'd tuned into R3 - if there was silence when you turned the radio on.
                      Today one would say, "It must be that John Cage piece".

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22128

                        #71
                        Originally posted by hmvman View Post
                        Yes, I suppose it was a lot harder to pick out one track from an LP record, although they would've had cueing devices and quick-start turntables.
                        They managed on Record Review, Talking about Music and shorter ‘full works’.

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                        • oddoneout
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 9218

                          #72
                          Not sure where best to post this - could be something for the Pedant's thread to chew over but as it's a late evening programme I'll put it here.
                          I saw this phrase in the blurb for Monday's Night Tracks and wondered what they were actually trying to say.
                          from classical to contemporary and everything in between
                          . Might have made a bit more sense if 'classical' had had a capital C, (but then that would have made a mockery of including Jean Mouton and Hildegard of Bingen) to which would avoid the suggestion of contemporary(date parameters?) not being 'classical'. That is a view with which a good few might agree( "I don't like all this modern stuff, it isn't music", etc) but not something for the BBC to endorse...
                          The 'everything in between' bit is questionable as well. I know that it is now pointless expecting the online content to be of any quality, let alone use, but this struck me as faulty on several fronts, and unnecessarily so if all that is intended is to convey that the playlist covers a wide range of music.

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                          • LMcD
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8488

                            #73
                            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                            Not sure where best to post this - could be something for the Pedant's thread to chew over but as it's a late evening programme I'll put it here.
                            I saw this phrase in the blurb for Monday's Night Tracks and wondered what they were actually trying to say.
                            . Might have made a bit more sense if 'classical' had had a capital C, (but then that would have made a mockery of including Jean Mouton and Hildegard of Bingen) to which would avoid the suggestion of contemporary(date parameters?) not being 'classical'. That is a view with which a good few might agree( "I don't like all this modern stuff, it isn't music", etc) but not something for the BBC to endorse...
                            The 'everything in between' bit is questionable as well. I know that it is now pointless expecting the online content to be of any quality, let alone use, but this struck me as faulty on several fronts, and unnecessarily so if all that is intended is to convey that the playlist covers a wide range of music.
                            How about 'A Musical Adventure In Time And Space' ?

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30321

                              #74
                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                              The 'everything in between' bit is questionable as well. I know that it is now pointless expecting the online content to be of any quality, let alone use, but this struck me as faulty on several fronts, and unnecessarily so if all that is intended is to convey that the playlist covers a wide range of music.
                              Quite appropriately, Late Junction* in the days of Fiona and Verity had the tease of 'everything in between' can't off-hand remember between what - from something to post-modern. LJ is now 'Journeys in music, ancient to future. The home for adventurous listeners'. Calling something on offer 'adventurous' is just designed to flatter these days. I was adventurous in going to Tesco instead of the Co-op this morning.

                              It's all marketing to increase consumption. Give people addictive junk, then feed their addiction. Sorry to say it, but help for addictions is available on the NH...........

                              * How insulting! - I typed Late Unction. Nooooo .... we're really thinking outside the box, pushing the envelope, with it.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30321

                                #75
                                Can't find in the Usual Places the LJ quote, but from 2007 I found this quote:

                                "Back home in Newcastle I'm having an early night. The clock-radio's set to 'sleep', and I'm dozing off to BBC Radio 3's regular weeknight music show, Late Junction. I'm an intermittently loyal LJ listener - which status is probably not unrelated to my feelings towards the programme: a mixture of affection and perplexity. It certainly offers a relaxing way to see the day out: it describes itself on its website as '[a] laid-back, eclectic mix of music from across the globe'. "

                                This, like Night Tracks, is what I think of 'commodifying' classical music: function not art.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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