Radio 3 Unwind starts on the 4th of November

[cloughie]

Does anyone on the forum ever unwind to, or even listen to R3u?

[french frank]

It seems today's cultural czars want everyone to forget our rich cultural inheritance and mediate their experience of today's complex world through some kind of cultural amnesia. I guess they feel they can get away with this kind of lap dogging now that the Carters, Goehrs, Maxwell Davises and Stockhausens are gone and out of the (thinking) way.

Is the problem not that haven't grown to appreciate it themselves? It really isn't any more 'worthy' than the village choir singing My Heart Will Go On or Daft Punk's Get Lucky (have you seen their Wikipedia article? Eat your heart out Schubert).

[french frank]

I listened for about 5 minutes to Classical Wind Down. Looking at the playlist I was surprised at the proportion of works which simply weren't 'classical' within any known definition (other than that BBC dictionary again). I heard part of 35 (the end), Mary Lattimore, 'Your Glossy Camry' and part of 36 (the beginning), Nick Cave and Warren Ellis, 'Counting the Stars') and looking back over the previous 10 pieces, 7 were not even 'light classical'. Why is it even branded as Radio 3 Unwind?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00255b9

[LMcD]

'When I use a word ... it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less'.

[smittims]

Many years ago Charles Rosen said in an essay 'How to make classical sell: record pop and call it 'classical'. It's clear to me that Sam Jackson doesn't know the difference and is simply in the wrong job. But then so were Stalin and Hitler.

[french frank]

I listened for about 5 minutes to Classical Wind Down.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00255b9

Now that the entire playlist is available, the grisly statistic is that of 43 pieces, approx. 17 (one can argue about such composers as Einaudi) the mix is 60% non-classical (incl. V. Young, "When I Fall in Love") to 40% classical (incl. Songs My Mother Taught Me transcr. for trumpet). Anything significant to the 60/40 ratio? What we aim for? Hover over the works and, of course, you discover that the longer classical pieces aren't played in full. Did you doubt it?

[LMcD]

Now that the entire playlist is available, the grisly statistic is that of 43 pieces, approx. 17 (one can argue about such composers as Einaudi) the mix is 60% non-classical (incl. V. Young, "When I Fall in Love") to 40% classical (incl. Songs My Mother Taught Me transcr. for trumpet). Anything significant to the 60/40 ratio? What we aim for? Hover over the works and, of course, you discover that the longer classical pieces aren't played in full. Did you doubt it?

The first words I saw when I clicked on this link were 'Switch off'
I think we're getting into dangerous territory when the meanings of both 'live' and 'classical' are broadened in this way - will the definition of 'music' be next?

[Pulcinella]

I find it quite bizarre that just before the 1930 evening concert there's a plug for R3 Unwind.
Is the concert really too much for people to handle?
Shouldn't they be encouraging people to stay tuned to R3?

[Ein Heldenleben]

I find it quite bizarre that just before the 1930 evening concert there's a plug for R3 Unwind.
Is the concert really too much for people to handle?
Shouldn't they be encouraging people to stay tuned to R3?

Given the quality of that Berg Lyric Suite performance just now the answer is yes .

[Pulcinella]

Given the quality of that Berg Lyric Suite performance just now the answer is yes .

You might be right.....hope things pick up in the rest of the programme!

[Ein Heldenleben]

You might be right.....hope things pick up in the rest of the programme!

I meant yes to question 2 i.e. stick with the Berg!

Sadly the Adams orchestration of the Debussy was so lumpy in comparison I’ve turned into the Arsenal match

[Pulcinella]

I meant yes stick with the Berg!

Sadly the Adams orchestration of the Debussy was so lumpy in comparison I’ve turned into the Arsenal match

Oops.....I gave up and am listening to the Bartok piano concertos (Boulez, DG). I'm actually unwinding quite well.