Radio 3 Unwind starts on the 4th of November

[AuntDaisy]

There is a version of my database 'front end' which includes artists, but I haven't 'formally' announced it yet. At the moment it's only possible to search on a single artist, but searching back to about 2013 on Barbirolli then filtering for 'sinfonia of london' within the browser gives 5 results for Breakfast (not all of which match your Google search results) and 18 for Essential Classics.

Many thanks Andrew - that new artist search is very useful.

[Andrew Slater]

Andrew's extensive database might be able to help. (But I'm not sure how to specifically find Barbirolli).

I don't really listen to Breakfast or EC, but I couldn't find many recent ones, although a decade ago they may have appeared more often...

A quick search found this partial list:
Breakfast 8/5/2023 26/1/2022 18/9/2022 14/11/2016 1/9/2015 18/5/2013 24/9/2011
Essential Classics 1/5/2023 6/9/2021 29/7/2020 6/1/2016 24/11/2015 11/11/2014 17/6/2014 19/5/2014 10/2/2012 24/10/2011 15/9/2011

BTW these were the Google searches: search1 search2

site:bbc.co.uk/programmes Barbirolli "Sinfonia Of London" "Breakfast"
site:bbc.co.uk/programmes Barbirolli "Sinfonia Of London" "Essential Classics"

There is a version of my database 'front end' which includes artists, but I haven't 'formally' announced it yet. At the moment it's only possible to search on a single artist, but searching back to about 2013 on Barbirolli then filtering for 'sinfonia of london' within the browser gives 5 results for Breakfast (not all of which match your Google search results) and 18 for Essential Classics.

[hmvman]

From my limited listening to 'Breakfast' I would say that it's pretty rare to hear a 'classic' recording unless they're marking an anniversary or birthday of a conductor or other artist.

[AuntDaisy]

Actually , those of you who listen to Breakfast and EC can enlighten me - how often if ever do "golden oldie" recordings like the S of L/Barbirolli appear ?

Andrew's extensive database might be able to help. (But I'm not sure how to specifically find Barbirolli).

I don't really listen to Breakfast or EC, but I couldn't find many recent ones, although a decade ago they may have appeared more often...

A quick search found this partial list:
Breakfast 8/5/2023 26/1/2022 18/9/2022 14/11/2016 1/9/2015 18/5/2013 24/9/2011
Essential Classics 1/5/2023 6/9/2021 29/7/2020 6/1/2016 24/11/2015 11/11/2014 17/6/2014 19/5/2014 10/2/2012 24/10/2011 15/9/2011

BTW these were the Google searches: search1 search2

site:bbc.co.uk/programmes  Barbirolli "Sinfonia Of London" "Breakfast"
site:bbc.co.uk/programmes  Barbirolli "Sinfonia Of London" "Essential Classics"

[Barbirollians]

Actually , those of you who listen to Breakfast and EC can enlighten me - how often if ever do "golden oldie" recordings like the S of L/Barbirolli appear ?

[Barbirollians]

No I should apologise ..didn’t make the connection. I should have realised you would never say such a thing !

Yes Kleiber supreme in this ..

a propos of nothing in partIcular I was listening blind to the Elgar Introduction and Allegro on In Tune tonight and thought this is good - some of that string playing is up there with the Barbirolli.

Right (namesake) band : Sinfonia of London

Wrong conductor - turned out to be John Wilson - now that did surprise me.

I cannot disagree with regard to the quality of the playing. Its the guiding hand I struggle with .

I was in Suffolk in the summer and with only a radio. On Breakfast it was announced the Tallis Fantasia with the S of L - oh good I thought but of course it was Wilson not Barbirolli , superbly played and moved me not a jot.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Maybe Barbs was talking about that particular performance?

Yes indeed he was ..oops

[Ein Heldenleben]

Sorry I was referring to the Chailly recording - the rest of the performance is very good .

I think Erich Kleiber's VPO 1955 performance meets your test magnificently.

No I should apologise ..didn’t make the connection. I should have realised you would never say such a thing !

Yes Kleiber supreme in this ..

a propos of nothing in partIcular I was listening blind to the Elgar Introduction and Allegro on In Tune tonight and thought this is good - some of that string playing is up there with the Barbirolli.

Right (namesake) band : Sinfonia of London

Wrong conductor - turned out to be John Wilson - now that did surprise me.

[Barbirollians]

Ooh I think it’s the greatest of all funeral marches and indeed one of the greatest slow movements ever written precisely because it’s not a funeral March but more of an exploration of a response to death and remembered life,

Sorry I was referring to the Chailly recording - the rest of the performance is very good .

I think Erich Kleiber's VPO 1955 performance meets your test magnificently.

[Serial_Apologist]

Ooh I think it’s the greatest of all funeral marches and indeed one of the greatest slow movements ever written precisely because it’s not a funeral March but more of an exploration of a response to death and remembered life,

Maybe Barbs was talking about that particular performance?

[Ein Heldenleben]

I don't think the marcia funebre is so tremendous - sounds like nobody is very upset .

Ooh I think it’s the greatest of all funeral marches and indeed one of the greatest slow movements ever written precisely because it’s not a funeral March but more of an exploration of a response to death and remembered life,

[Barbirollians]

Radio 3 Unwind - musical benzodiazopenes.

[Barbirollians]

Shame, you missed Chailly's tremendous recording of the Eroica although only the first movt.

I don't think the marcia funebre is so tremendous - sounds like nobody is very upset .

[LMcD]

Yes, it is almost as if the BBC i trying to close down R3and insert mere disk-to-disk chains - no analysis, no evaluation, no reliance on listeners to help develop, just strnig of tracks with nowt else.

Gulp - the end of R3 as an entity, and a surrender to a series of anonymised playlists.

If I understood him correctly, people will turn to Unwind after the Today programme ('to escape the news'), move on from Unwind to Radio 3 (why?) , switch back to Unwind if something on Radio 3 doesn't appeal to them, nod off while listening to Unwind, then return to Radio 4 for the Today programme the following morning.

[DracoM]

Yes, it is almost as if the BBC i trying to close down R3and insert mere disk-to-disk chains - no analysis, no evaluation, no reliance on listeners to help develop, just strnig of tracks with nowt else.

Gulp - the end of R3 as an entity, and a surrender to a series of anonymised playlists.