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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8377

    #16
    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    Blow, blow, R 3 Unwind,
    Thou art more unkind
    Than list'ners merit ;
    Thy sense is not so keen,
    Because thou art not seen,
    To gauge how ill we bear it.

    Heigh-ho! sing, heigh-ho! unto the green holly:
    List'nership is feigning, most 'outreach' mere folly:
    Then, heigh-ho, the holly!
    This life is most jolly.


    Freeze, freeze, thou bitter sky,
    That dost not bite so nigh
    As listeners forgot:
    Though thou the waters warp,
    Thy sting is not so sharp
    As friends remembered not.

    Heigh-ho! sing, heigh-ho! unto the green holly...
    Ideal text for a trailer should young Jackson ever offer us an all-request service called 'Radio 3 As You Like It'.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30166

      #17
      Originally posted by LMcD View Post

      I would!
      Do you mean you wouldn't enjoy chamber music to close the day's listening. Or do you simply mean: "I like Night Tracks" and wouldn't welcome any alternative? My 'Who would object?' question was designed to lure out objectors to explain why they wouldn't want chamber music? You wouldn't be deprived of Night Tracks as it would be on the Unwind stream.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • hmvman
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 1093

        #18
        Is this an interesting new innovation where there are two strands to R3 output catering for different audiences? I would certainly welcome some late-night chamber music as an alternative to Night Tracks. Maybe there could be a stream of complete works in the mornings, parallel to EC.

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8377

          #19
          Originally posted by french frank View Post

          Do you mean you wouldn't enjoy chamber music to close the day's listening. Or do you simply mean: "I like Night Tracks" and wouldn't welcome any alternative? My 'Who would object?' question was designed to lure out objectors to explain why they wouldn't want chamber music? You wouldn't be deprived of Night Tracks as it would be on the Unwind stream.
          Night Tracks features the kind of music I particularly enjoy late in the evening, and I'm usually in bed for the second half in the company of 'mein kleines Apparat' which doesn't 'do' streaming. A replacement programme featuring chamber music would be perfectly acceptable, but might possibly offer me fewer opportunities to be adventurous!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30166

            #20
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

            Night Tracks features the kind of music I particularly enjoy late in the evening, and I'm usually in bed for the second half in the company of 'mein kleines Apparat' which doesn't 'do' streaming. A replacement programme featuring chamber music would be perfectly acceptable, but might possibly offer me fewer opportunities to be adventurous!
            At the point where a majority of the Radio 3 audience would prefer SM-P, five nights a week, presenting a 'glorious ragbag' of mostly non-classical music (which I doubt very much I would agree with the programme makers was 'adventurous' even if unfamiliar: just listening I'd say there was a strong streak of ambient New Age) rather than eg 250 years of string quartets from Haydn to Webern to Julian Anderson - at that point Radio 3 as a serious arts broadcaster could finally be declared dead. "Long live Radio 3 Lite or R3 Chill or Radio 3 East Listening or Radio 3 Sleepy Time". How can people truly appreciate, musically, a combination of shortish pieces which form no kind of coherent sequence? Once it becomes functional ('It helps me to get off to sleep') it vitiates Ars gratia artis.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6724

              #21
              The trail for that Unwind service is so tooth gratingly bad it’s affecting my mental health. That awful goo-goo voice ,,.,
              Seriously though it’s all part of the infantilisation of our culture . Apart from anything all mindfulness stuff I’ve done (which I thoroughly recommend) advises you not to do any of it with music in the background. You are much better off learning an instrument than letting poor quality music wash over you.

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11654

                #22
                Looks revoltingly bland .

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                • Hitch
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 366

                  #23
                  An appropriate question given the date: how much of R3's budget is allocated to the launch and maintenance of R3 Unwind?

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                  • smittims
                    Full Member
                    • Aug 2022
                    • 4008

                    #24
                    I don't like the idea of Licence-payers' money being spent on stuff that isn't broadcast on FM or DAB. Whatever weasel words they use to justify it, It's still dishonest in my book.

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8377

                      #25
                      Originally posted by smittims View Post
                      I don't like the idea of Licence-payers' money being spent on stuff that isn't broadcast on FM or DAB. Whatever weasel words they use to justify it, It's still dishonest in my book.
                      I believe 'Unwind' will be available on DAB+.
                      .

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                      • oddoneout
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9127

                        #26
                        And so it came to pass...
                        "Radio 3 will also get a new station to focus on calming classical music, aimed at helping listeners "unwind, de-stress and escape the pressures of daily life". It will feature newly-released pieces and new compositions alongside performances of classic works. The BBC said the station would champion music by

                        The reference to supporting the Proms was worrying at the time and, now that this year's offering is past, possibly more so.
                        Was this why we lost TTN time to Dumbtime, given that there was some mumble about having to air that content on a station before it could be offered elsewhere? When R3X is up and running will that mean no further airtime poaching is necessary?
                        I think I managed to miss a trailer for it this morning - just as well as the online blurb talking about "unwind your mind" I find rather disturbing. The last thing my mind needs is more encouragement to unravel...
                        I've just come across this https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...tations-on-dab
                        Too many posts to have read all but the later comments might be of interest, and the thread title confirms that it will be available on DAB?

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6724

                          #27
                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          And so it came to pass...
                          "Radio 3 will also get a new station to focus on calming classical music, aimed at helping listeners "unwind, de-stress and escape the pressures of daily life". It will feature newly-released pieces and new compositions alongside performances of classic works. The BBC said the station would champion music by

                          The reference to supporting the Proms was worrying at the time and, now that this year's offering is past, possibly more so.
                          Was this why we lost TTN time to Dumbtime, given that there was some mumble about having to air that content on a station before it could be offered elsewhere? When R3X is up and running will that mean no further airtime poaching is necessary?
                          I think I managed to miss a trailer for it this morning - just as well as the online blurb talking about "unwind your mind" I find rather disturbing. The last thing my mind needs is more encouragement to unravel...
                          I've just come across this https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...tations-on-dab
                          Too many posts to have read all but the later comments might be of interest, and the thread title confirms that it will be available on DAB?
                          so poor little diddums had a difficult day at work so the BBC has to be some sort of counsellor delivering audio consolation.

                          How about a Breakfast time service BBC WINDUP aimed at getting you prepared for that delayed train, then being packed in like a sardine , no one saying good morning when you arrive at work (mainly because they are all WFH’ing) turning on the work PC to find it takes 15 mins to boot up . So you do you work emails on your iPhone the first of which is a demand for a 14 page summary of what you’ve achieved this year which has to be done landscape in 14 point with bull points on every page. You do half of it and then the PC crashes ..So you dash off an email to IT and from then the day just spirals down a plughole…

                          Pieces to get you in that feisty frame of mind
                          Coates Dambusters
                          Sibelius Finlandia, Karelia Suite
                          Beethoven Wellington’s Victory , finale of 5th
                          Shostakovich Leningrad Symphony , Finale Symphony 5

                          It’s got to be a winner …

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6724

                            #28
                            Just heard that awful trail again . What is “brain space” exactly ? A gap where your brains should be ?

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30166

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              Just heard that awful trail again . What is “brain space” exactly ? A gap where your brains should be ?


                              Also, by my estimation, the last 'serious' new programme aimed at knowledgeable classical music listeners was possibly CD Masters. Everything new since has been easy listening or directed at people who know little about classical music, and don't necessarily want to know much. Or 'unclassified' music anyway
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8377

                                #30
                                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                                And so it came to pass...
                                "Radio 3 will also get a new station to focus on calming classical music, aimed at helping listeners "unwind, de-stress and escape the pressures of daily life". It will feature newly-released pieces and new compositions alongside performances of classic works. The BBC said the station would champion music by

                                The reference to supporting the Proms was worrying at the time and, now that this year's offering is past, possibly more so.
                                Was this why we lost TTN time to Dumbtime, given that there was some mumble about having to air that content on a station before it could be offered elsewhere? When R3X is up and running will that mean no further airtime poaching is necessary?
                                I think I managed to miss a trailer for it this morning - just as well as the online blurb talking about "unwind your mind" I find rather disturbing. The last thing my mind needs is more encouragement to unravel...
                                I've just come across this https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...tations-on-dab
                                Too many posts to have read all but the later comments might be of interest, and the thread title confirms that it will be available on DAB?
                                Unravel - to refuse to broadcast anything written by the composer of the Bolero.

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