Sean: a Celebration

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  • oddoneout
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    • Nov 2015
    • 9267

    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Mind you Sean was forever mentioning the studio “Steinway” . Another flagrant breach of editorial guidelines.I know a few producers who’ve been hauled over the coals for just one or two stray breaches . I can only assume because the audience is so small no one complains or cares.
    Audience wasn't bothered and management didn't notice?

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    • underthecountertenor
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      • Apr 2011
      • 1586

      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

      He starts Monday …
      Not unless he’s transformed himself into Gareth Malone he doesn’t.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30445

        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

        Mind you Sean was forever mentioning the studio “Steinway” . Another flagrant breach of editorial guidelines.I know a few producers who’ve been hauled over the coals for just one or two stray breaches . I can only assume because the audience is so small no one complains or cares.
        Although unless Sean was paid for mentioning/endorsing Steinway (which I doubt and do not suggest), it would strike me as more akin to his legendary 'Wardour Street' English to mean 'piano', like 'setting quill to parchment' to contact the programme. Rabbiting on about one's own enthusiasms would be different - were any presenter to be guilty of doing so.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • oddoneout
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          • Nov 2015
          • 9267

          Originally posted by french frank View Post

          Although unless Sean was paid for mentioning/endorsing Steinway (which I doubt and do not suggest), it would strike me as more akin to his legendary 'Wardour Street' English to mean 'piano', like 'setting quill to parchment' to contact the programme. Rabbiting on about one's own enthusiasms would be different - were any presenter to be guilty of doing so.
          The 'Oirish witticism' angle did occur to me as well.

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12927

            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            his legendary 'Wardour Street' English...
            ... I wonder how many now understand the locution -



            - by a nice mise en abyme the locution 'Wardour Street English' has itself become Wardour Street English

            (Wardour Street itself is not what it was in the 1920s - let alone the 1880s... )


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            Last edited by vinteuil; 19-12-24, 17:08.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6920

              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              Although unless Sean was paid for mentioning/endorsing Steinway (which I doubt and do not suggest), it would strike me as more akin to his legendary 'Wardour Street' English to mean 'piano', like 'setting quill to parchment' to contact the programme. Rabbiting on about one's own enthusiasms would be different - were any presenter to be guilty of doing so.
              No of course he wasn’t paid or comped in any way . It’s just a habit. It’s just that having spent decades removing generic brand names like Hoover from scripts , taping over anorak labels , getting presenters to take camera straps off (some of whom were being paid in kind ) it’s really annoying when others are so casual. There’s absolutely no need to refer to the brand of the piano.
              Radio 3 in general has become , thanks to the malign PR business, a pluggers’ delight, There are too many programmes where the editorial is driven by some one with a book , CD , or concert to plug . The most egregious examples being Saturday Morning , Private PassIons , and In Tune. To be fair on Private Passions the plugging is pretty well policed. We are being schmoozed…

              Perhaps I should worry more about things in Syria …

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6920

                Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post

                Not unless he’s transformed himself into Gareth Malone he doesn’t.
                Ooh I could swear he was mentioned last night.

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                • Ein Heldenleben
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 6920

                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                  No of course he wasn’t paid or comped in any way . It’s just a habit. It’s just that having spent decades removing generic brand names like Hoover from scripts , taping over anorak labels , getting presenters to take camera straps off (some of whom were being paid in kind ) it’s really annoying when others are so casual. There’s absolutely no need to refer to the brand of the piano.
                  Radio 3 in general has become , thanks to the malign PR business, a pluggers’ delight, There are too many programmes where the editorial is driven by some one with a book , CD , or concert to plug . The most egregious examples being Saturday Morning , Private PassIons , and In Tune. To be fair on Private Passions the plugging is pretty well policed. We are being schmoozed…

                  Perhaps I should worry more about things in Syria …
                  There you go . Two name checks there for Tyrell’s crisps on Saturday morning including , incredibly , one from the presenter, Both completely editorially unjustified. They could have just said crisp advert not Tyrell’s crisp advert. Even had the presenter saying “other brands are available “ as if this was some sort of editorial get out . It’s a myth - it’s not a get out. The BBC is not supposed to mention commercial brands except in strictly delineated circumstances.

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