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  • burning dog
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Yes well Liz Kendall MP has sussed out that in reggae the accent is on the second and fourth beat which is why she is now Work and Pensions secretary.
    She was the one comfortable with the situation. I believe she was at school with Ginger Spice!!!

    .Rodigan was not as ease. Can't Sing Play or Dance? Become a D.J.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by burning dog View Post
    I most humbly apologise for this but I feel compelled to share

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p073lpxl
    Yes well Liz Kendall MP has sussed out that in reggae the accent is on the second and fourth beat which is why she is now Work and Pensions secretary.

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  • burning dog
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    I most humbly apologise for this but I feel compelled to share

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  • Maclintick
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Thanks but I’ve just realised this is not the disco prom thread but the Sean Rafferty thread (that I started ) so my disco reference might bemuse some . But always a pleasure to drag out that photo ..and the added bonus of some video .
    Yes. LHC beat me to it as for some reason my share link from IMGUR failed.....

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  • LMcD
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Not seen that . I’d heard rumours . This is the late night BBC politics show that also had Diane Abbot on it ?

    oh dear , oh dear …
    I think it was the episode of BBC1's 'This Week' broadcast on 19/10/2018. The other guest was Caroline Flint.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

    Thanks but I’ve just realised this is not the disco prom thread but the Sean Rafferty thread (that I started ) so my disco reference might bemuse some . But always a pleasure to drag out that photo ..and the added bonus of some video .

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    what capitalist commodification of a folk genre ?
    Try privatising the BeeGees .
    I reckon the US pop music business is about as raw as capitalism gets - a lot of it is borderline illegal.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

    It's all intertwined, innit!
    what capitalist commodification of a folk genre ?
    Try privatising the BeeGees .
    I reckon the US pop music business is about as raw as capitalism gets - a lot of it is borderline illegal.

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by burning dog View Post

    This is from a post disco genre I suppose.


    Not seen that . I’d heard rumours . This is the late night BBC politics show that also had Diane Abbot on it ?

    oh dear , oh dear …

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Thanks so much. I couldn’t upload as it exceeded a rather paltry 11kb limit .

    yes the power of disco ..

    this thread with its twin discussions on disco and politics / socialism has to be one of the more bizarre. Luckily Andrew Neil unites the seemingly irreconcilable.
    Base and superstructure. It's all intertwined, innit!

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    Originally posted by LHC View Post

    Here you go.

    Thanks so much. I couldn’t upload as it exceeded a rather paltry 11kb limit .

    yes the power of disco ..

    this thread with its twin discussions on disco and politics / socialism has to be one of the more bizarre. Luckily Andrew Neil unites the seemingly irreconcilable.

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    Originally posted by french frank View Post

    It's no more and no less "socialist" than previous Labour governments. Even Attlee's government was sunk by those (e.g. Ralph Miliband) wanting him to be 'more socialist'.
    Probably it will be a great deal less. Postwar for 20-odd years there was pretty much consensus in ruling quarters that Keynsian monetary policies were necessitated, and all but the backwoods persons saw nationalisation of utilities in infrastructural necessity terms, In other ways Attlee's Labour gov was (courtesy the affiliated unions) quite reactionary - on race, NATO, the atom bomb and de-colonisation. The old Left which could have caused inner division was caught on the hop - the positive fatalist Trotskyist far left had predicted either world revolution or fascism as the only possible outcomes of WW2; the Communists were totally in hoc to the Kremlin line of "peaceful co-existence" ruling out anything that would disturb the new world order to whose victory over Nazism they had contributed. Following China and Cuba, anti-colonial movements in the Third World were, up to the Anti Vietnam war movement, seen as to be from now on viewed as the displaced epicentre of world revolution. All that changed in the late 60s with the dual rise of "lifestyle anarchism" and Maoism, and a recrudescent Trotskyst movement. By ten years later the pro-USSR Communists had split, the majority aligned externally to the Tribune Group in the LP; the only remaining arguments vis-a-vis the Labour Party being less about its suitability as a vehicle for socialist change than whether or not to enter it for purposes of winning sections of its base (far larger than the revolutionary left) to its own brands of activism in the unions, communities and among ethnic minorities. The rise of the Green parties was based on WW2's encouragement of class collaboration through a common enemy being transferred to the likelihood of environmental destruction acting to transcend issues of class, colour or creed. The idea of Labour as THE potential vehicle of change (by electing a Labour government on a left wing programme) only really came back with Jeremy Corbyn. Essentially the Establishment (big biz, chiefs of police, security, law courts, banks, armed forces, the mainstream media) over-reached itself viz Labour while ineluctably correct in the wider dangers: Corbyn and his supporters had to be got(ten) rid of and Labour rendered safe for capitalism's continuance, as it always reliably had been. And so we are... where we are.

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  • burning dog
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Could you perhaps supply an image that shows Andrew Neil’s keen interest in the Disco genre …?
    This is from a post disco genre I suppose.



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  • LHC
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    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    Could you perhaps supply an image that shows Andrew Neil’s keen interest in the Disco genre …?
    Here you go.

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  • burning dog
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    Originally posted by french frank View Post

    It's no more and no less "socialist" than previous Labour governments. Even Attlee's government was sunk by those (e.g. Ralph Miliband) wanting him to be 'more socialist'.
    FF. It would have been Harold Laski in Attlee's time who may have sunk them.

    I 'm sure the young Ralph Milliband would have wanted Attlee to be "more socialist" though.

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