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  • Ein Heldenleben
    Full Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 7401

    It would be interesting to know if this

    Franz Liszt
    Réminiscences de Don Juan, S. 418
    Vadym Kholodenko (piano)

    Now currently on was recorded live with no editing. Hardly any one days attempt it live these days . Those right hand chromatic minor thirds were dashed off like a basic Czerny exercise.

    Yep it was recorded live alright ….amazing playing.
    Last edited by Ein Heldenleben; 07-04-25, 15:48.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26660

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      the unfeasible Liz Alker
      Happily the more-than-feasible Mark Forrest has reopened afternoon programming for me this week. I like his presentation style very much, unaffected and unpatronising with a few deftly-delivered facts. I learnt two things (about Prokofiev’s R&J, and about Václav Luks’s Collegium 1704) I didn’t know, and very much enjoyed the performances.

      Long may he remain
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • AuntDaisy
        Host
        • Jun 2018
        • 1962

        Today's "live" phraseology... Wot, no "bigly" or "special" relationship?

        Another recording made specially by our friends in radio stations across Europe. Thanks to our relationship with the European Broadcasting Union, we're able to bring these recordings exclusively to you. And that was from a concert that took place in Switzerland's impressive Beaulieu Theatre in Laussane...
        I'd still prefer a "Lunchtime Concert" - we could have had both Brandenburgs together with both Scarlatti (Scarlotto?) pieces. Rather than everything being randomly put through the mincer.

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9619

          Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
          Today's "live" phraseology... Wot, no "bigly" or "special" relationship?



          I'd still prefer a "Lunchtime Concert" - we could have had both Brandenburgs together with both Scarlatti (Scarlotto?) pieces. Rather than everything being randomly put through the mincer.
          Mentioning 'relationship' implies some sort of special status, but it's a membership organisation to which the BBC belongs - along with the likes of BR, yle, ITV, Israeli Public Broadcasting Corporation...
          To me, the use of 'exclusively' suggests that the BBC is able to restrict broadcast of some recordings for its sole use; I would be interested to know if that is true.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9619

            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

            Happily the more-than-feasible Mark Forrest has reopened afternoon programming for me this week. I like his presentation style very much, unaffected and unpatronising with a few deftly-delivered facts. I learnt two things (about Prokofiev’s R&J, and about Václav Luks’s Collegium 1704) I didn’t know, and very much enjoyed the performances.

            Long may he remain
            Unfortunately the change of presenter, however welcome, doesn't address other longstanding issues. The online information is always incomplete in terms of what will be played, and for the most part now there is no indication of timings. So, if Sounds is not an option(as is my situation) then if I want to hear a particular item it's either making a guess, or sitting through the whole thing in order to catch the bit I want. Making a guess depends on several variables and is often impossible frankly unless I want to spend a great deal of time researching lengths of works and then doing the calculations, adding in wiggle room for undeclared items in bagging area. I would have liked to listen to the Handel Dixit Dominus on Tuesday, but how to know when it was going to be on? I was neither inclined nor in a position to listen to sufficient of the preceding pieces to stand a chance of getting what I wanted. Keeping the PC on just to track what had been played wasn't an option and carries it's own problems as the listings are not always timely or correct, as illustrated today. I heard a chunk of today's broadcast and nos 2 and 3 of the MacMillan Tenebrae Responsaries don't appear in the Music Played list as they were placed in the broadcast itself, nor as they appear in the schedule that precedes the playlist.

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            • AuntDaisy
              Host
              • Jun 2018
              • 1962

              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
              Mentioning 'relationship' implies some sort of special status, but it's a membership organisation to which the BBC belongs - along with the likes of BR, yle, ITV, Israeli Public Broadcasting Corporation...
              To me, the use of 'exclusively' suggests that the BBC is able to restrict broadcast of some recordings for its sole use; I would be interested to know if that is true.
              You're right. I think the Bach was on RTS 15/5/2024 & RTE 26/2/2025 (?), so exclusive as in "Not on Classic FM"?
              To me, the R3 "Live" wording is basically Sheridan-esque puffery.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
                Full Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 7401

                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                Mentioning 'relationship' implies some sort of special status, but it's a membership organisation to which the BBC belongs - along with the likes of BR, yle, ITV, Israeli Public Broadcasting Corporation...
                To me, the use of 'exclusively' suggests that the BBC is able to restrict broadcast of some recordings for its sole use; I would be interested to know if that is true.
                As you surmise it’s exclusive to the BBC in the UK region only. Each (usually public service )broadcaster in the EBU will I suspect have exclusivity over a partner’s recording in their own country for a period of time - possibly only one first outing , a thirty day stream window and a repeat.

                “Exclusive” is the most abused word in journalism….

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30982

                  Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                  To me, the R3 "Live" wording is basically Sheridan-esque puffery.
                  You can 'Listen Live' at this very moment (just) to In Concert - recorded a week ago in Llandaff cathedral.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 7401

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post

                    You can 'Listen Live' at this very moment (just) to In Concert - recorded a week ago in Llandaff cathedral.
                    Well I would encourage any one to listen again on Sounds to this quite magnificent performance of the Missa Solemnis .

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