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  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
    • 4858

    I've come to like Elizabeth Alker's voice and enjoy hearing her interpolations. She sounds to me like a very bright sixteen-year-old grammar school girl who's been told to read aloud something she's never seen before.

    But I prefer her to Petroc Trelawny , who always sounds to me as if he's trying hard to disguise his contempt for us all. He's the Head Prefect telling the first form to behave themselves.

    Both of these I prefer to Linton Stephens and what sounds to me like slurred speech .
    . And he says 'epic' too often. 'Mahler's 'epic' first symphony, conducted by Sine Ra'l.'
    Last edited by smittims; 27-03-25, 15:16.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30894

      Originally posted by smittims View Post
      I've come to like Elizabeth Alker's voice and enjoy hearing her interpolations.
      I'm not sure whether you mean that. But if you do, you're saying you can enjoy R3's new presenter-focused programmes as long as you personally like the presenter. And yet you read here that others like Trelawny very much and can't stand Alker. This is the triumph of personal taste over quality, of style over content . Gradually, gradually 'they' win people over. And this is just a tiny part of the whole downgrading of the arts and classical music that we see at all levels: providers, funders, artists, public.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22306

        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        I've come to like Elizabeth Alker's voice and enjoy hearing her interpolations. She sounds to me like a very bright sixteen-year-old grammar school girl who's been told to read aloud something she's never seen before.

        But I prefer her to Petroc Trelawney , who always sounds to me as if he's trying hard to disguise his contempt for us all. He's the Head Prefect telling the first form to behave themselves.

        Both of these I prefer to Linton Stephens and what sounds to me like slurred speech .
        . And he says 'epic' too often. 'Mahler's 'epic' first symphony, conducted by Sine Ra'l.'
        20000 Cornishmen would like to know why you spell Trelawny with an added ‘e’ and I find him affable and not at all contemptuous. Lizzie has a ‘omely accent.
        I can remember the days when certain forumites objected to Sarah Walker’s accent - I’ve always thought her to e one of the most knowledgeable presenters with no ‘knowall’ factor on display. Tom McK also has a good knowledgeability / affability balance!
        PS the added ‘e’ mentioned above is a source of annoyance to me and it is made by too many down here.

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
          • 9015

          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          I've come to like Elizabeth Alker's voice and enjoy hearing her interpolations. She sounds to me like a very bright sixteen-year-old grammar school girl who's been told to read aloud something she's never seen before.

          But I prefer her to Petroc Trelawney , who always sounds to me as if he's trying hard to disguise his contempt for us all. He's the Head Prefect telling the first form to behave themselves.

          Both of these I prefer to Linton Stephens and what sounds to me like slurred speech .
          . And he says 'epic' too often. 'Mahler's 'epic' first symphony, conducted by Sine Ra'l.'
          That was Suzie Klein.

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          • smittims
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            • Aug 2022
            • 4858

            Well, ff, just to clarify, if I may, I did simply and sincerely (i.e. not facetiously) mean that I enjoy (or as Ian would say 'I fnd amusing' ') the sound of EA's voice and speech. I don't mean I love everything she says or everything she plays.

            And apologies to cloughie. I was quite innocently unaware of the difference between 'Trelawney' and ' Trelawny' and didn't realise the significance of the spelling. I suppose it's like when people say 'Scotch' instead of 'Scots' , or 'Devonshire ' instead of Devon' (or 'Smittem' insetad of 'smittims') . I shall amend my post accordingly.

            BTw. I don't object to Sarah Walker's accent , but I don't like the way she says 'Bate Heauven' and 'Chaycheelia Bartoli', and she always sounds to me as if she' s about to burst out laughing. I suspect someone once told her to 'put a smile ' in her voice ,and it's stuck.

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
              • 9015

              Originally posted by smittims View Post
              Well, ff, just to clarify, if I may, I did simply and sincerely (i.e. not facetiously) mean that I enjoy (or as Ian would say 'I fnd amusing' ') the sound of EA's voice and speech. I don't mean I love everything she says or everything she plays.

              And apologies to cloughie. I was quite innocently unaware of the difference between 'Trelawney' and ' Trelawny' and didn't realise the significance of the spelling. I suppose it's like when people say 'Scotch' instead of 'Scots' , or 'Devonshire ' instead of Devon' (or 'Smittem' insetad of 'smittims') . I shall amend my post accordingly.

              BTw. I don't object to Sarah Walker's accent , but I don't like the way she says 'Bate Heauven' and 'Chaycheelia Bartoli', and she always sounds to me as if she' s about to burst out laughing. I suspect someone once told her to 'put a smile ' in her voice ,and it's stuck.
              It's enough to make Beethoven roll over.

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              • cloughie
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                • Dec 2011
                • 22306

                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                Well, ff, just to clarify, if I may, I did simply and sincerely (i.e. not facetiously) mean that I enjoy (or as Ian would say 'I fnd amusing' ') the sound of EA's voice and speech. I don't mean I love everything she says or everything she plays.

                And apologies to cloughie. I was quite innocently unaware of the difference between 'Trelawney' and ' Trelawny' and didn't realise the significance of the spelling. I suppose it's like when people say 'Scotch' instead of 'Scots' , or 'Devonshire ' instead of Devon' (or 'Smittem' insetad of 'smittims') . I shall amend my post accordingly.

                BTw. I don't object to Sarah Walker's accent , but I don't like the way she says 'Bate Heauven' and 'Chaycheelia Bartoli', and she always sounds to me as if she' s about to burst out laughing. I suspect someone once told her to 'put a smile ' in her voice ,and it's stuck.
                That’s fine smittims - just a Yorkshireman in Cornwall’s support of my roots and my adopted count(r)y. Whenever I cross the great divide that is the Tamar travelling easterly I always say ‘we’re in England now’.
                i think that like Sarah I also say ‘Bate Heauven’ and ‘Vorjacque’ with a silent D. Cecilia Bartoli, however I say with a probably rather poor Italian accent.
                Spellings and pronunciation of names seems to change as the years go by eg How many spellings of Mussorgsky are there of has there been?

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 9015

                  [QUOTE=cloughie;n1334537]

                  That’s fine smittims - just a Yorkshireman in Cornwall’s support of my roots and my adopted count(r)y. Whenever I cross the great divide that is the Tamar travelling easterly I always say ‘we’re in England now’.
                  i think that like Sarah I also say ‘Bate Heauven’ and ‘Vorjacque’ with a silent D. Cecilia Bartoli, however I say with a probably rather poor Italian accent.
                  Spellings and pronunciation of names seems to change as the years go by eg How many spellings of Mussorgsky are there of has there been?[/QUOTE]

                  I would have thought he was too modest to have more than a couple.

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 13262

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                    i think that like Sarah I also say ‘Bate Heauven’ ... Cecilia Bartoli, however I say with a probably rather poor Italian accent.

                    ... same here


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                    • Roger Webb
                      Full Member
                      • Feb 2024
                      • 1195

                      [QUOTE=smittims;n1334470.......... I don't like the way she says 'Bate Heauven' and 'Chaycheelia Bartoli'.........[/QUOTE]

                      And why does Georgia Mann insist on pronouncing Arleen Auger as Arleen Augair (as if it were spelt Augère), but Hiver (winter) as Hivay? (French partly to blame here)

                      In the case of Auger, Arleen went to the trouble of announcing that she wanted her record companies to reinstate the acute on the 'e', as she was fed up with hearing it pronounced incorrectly...mainly on radio shows, she said. Arleen is proud of her French-Canadian heritage - although an American citizen.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 38278

                        [QUOTE=LMcD;n1334538]
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                        That’s fine smittims - just a Yorkshireman in Cornwall’s support of my roots and my adopted count(r)y. Whenever I cross the great divide that is the Tamar travelling easterly I always say ‘we’re in England now’.
                        i think that like Sarah I also say ‘Bate Heauven’ and ‘Vorjacque’ with a silent D. Cecilia Bartoli, however I say with a probably rather poor Italian accent.
                        Spellings and pronunciation of names seems to change as the years go by eg How many spellings of Mussorgsky are there of has there been?[/QUOTE]

                        I would have thought he was too modest to have more than a couple.

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