Linz “played as it should be”

[Ein Heldenleben]

Saturday morning with Tom S is currently playing the final movement of the Linz symphony . Played “as it should be “ according to Tom that is loud, very fast , edgy , sudden sforzandi , aggressive string sound full of the sound of bow crunching against string . The band is
The Ensemble Resonanz. Conductor: Riccardo Minasi.

All very exciting but what’s wrong having it suffused with a Walterseque tinge of regret ? Or a silkier string sound ? It’s wearing my ears out.

[gradus]

Couldn't agree more about as charming as a razor blade.

[Roger Webb]

Saturday morning with Tom S is currently playing the final movement of the Linz symphony . Played “as it should be “ according to Tom that is loud, very fast , edgy , sudden sforzandi , aggressive string sound full of the sound of bow crunching against string . The band is
The Ensemble Resonanz. Conductor: Riccardo Minasi.

All very exciting but what’s wrong having it suffused with a Walterseque tinge of regret ? Or a silkier string sound ? It’s wearing my ears out.

Yes, I've just put on Böhm/BPO as an antidote - it has some of the Walteresque qualities you mention eg silky string tones in spades. I'm sure Dr Tom would tell us it's not what Mozart would have wanted or audiences of the time would have heard......ok Tom, but it's perfect for Saturday mornings when the sun's just come out!:irony3:

[Ein Heldenleben]

Yes, I've just put on Böhm/BPO as an antidote - it has some of the Walteresque qualities you mention eg silky string tones in spades. I'm sure Dr Tom would tell us it's not what Mozart would have wanted or audiences of the time would have heard......ok Tom, but it's perfect for Saturday mornings when the sun's just come out!:irony3:

Exactly I almost mentioned Bohm as well .I guess Walter stuck in my mind because of the famous rehearsal disc . On the main point - who is any position to say “this is how it should be played.” ? Except possibly Mozart,

[oddoneout]

"How it should be" and "how I like it" are not the same thing...
I agree with EH, but even then there is the possibility that Mozart may have had more than one way of performing it - whether through choice or circumstance, thinking here about rehearsals(or lack of) players ditto, etc . We can make an informed best guess at how it might have sounded at the time, that is not the same as saying "this is how it was" and brooking no argument.

[Roger Webb]

Exactly I almost mentioned Bohm as well .I guess Walter stuck in my mind because of the famous rehearsal disc . On the main point - who is any position to say “this is how it should be played.” ? Except possibly Mozart,

Exactly my feelings. I have Trevor Pinnock/English Consort complete Syms on CD if I need to know how Mozart might have wanted it to sound...and Hogwood on 6 sets of LPs for a different view of how Mozart might have wanted it to sound. Oh, nearly forgot Karajan! Both LP and CD of the late Syms.....to remind me how Mozart didn't want it to sound.

Mozart's in no position to tell you, me or Dr Tom what he intended......but the sun's still out, Böhm and the BPO are now playing the A side of LP 5 Haffner.....all's well with the world!

[smittims]

This has long been my favourite Mozart Symphony and I've always preferred Sir Thomas Beecham's two recordings (LPO amd RPO) to any others. Maybe , as I freely admit, this is because I came to know the work by listening repeatedly to my father's light-blue Columbias of the LPO recording. Sadly there seems to be a competition nowadays for the most inhuman performances of Mozart, which, judging from his letters, I don't think he would have approved at all.

I suspect that Tom was being deliberately provocative to get attention, as a previous presenter was when she referred to 'cheeky counterpoint ' in the Adagio and Fugue in C minor.

[french frank]

This reminds me (not having listened: just responding to comments here, you understand) of infant school teachers who need to provide children with certainties. It's only as pupils progress through the education system that they get to think and question what their teachers say. Same with teachers: they becomee less dogmatic.

[smittims]

Oh yes, I came across this when I used to teach a business writing course and many of the adults there still believed that it was 'wrong' to start a sentence with 'and ' or 'but'. I pointed out the many distiguished writers who have done this many times when it is effective to do so. I think people cling to the simplistic rules-of-thumb given to them as children and never bother to update them .

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The arrogance of the man never ceases to surprise me. TS is the Radio 3 equivalent of Laura Kuenssburg.

[Pulcinella]

Oh yes, I came across this when I used to teach a business writing course and many of the adults there still believed that it was 'wrong' to start a sentence with 'and ' or 'but'. I pointed out the many distiguished writers who have done this many times when it is effective to do so. I think people cling to the simplistic rules-of-thumb given to them as children and never bother to update them .

Imagine my reaction on learning that Ohm's Law (V=IR ) doesn't hold all the time: some materials do not obey Ohm's law; these are called non-ohmic.

[Roger Webb]

...... many of the adults there still believed that it was 'wrong' to start a sentence with 'and'....

'And did those feet in ancient times'?

Beecham declined to conduct the Parry, not on the grounds that each sentence begins with 'And', but that it posed a series of questions, the answer to which was 'no'!

[Roger Webb]

Imagine my reaction on learning that Ohm's Law (V=IR ) doesn't hold all the time: some materials do not obey Ohm's law; these are called non-ohmic.

Ah, my old trade! regular conductors; most metals, carbon etc do. Semi-conductors and electrolytic materials in components don't, and are designated non-linear or non-ohmic conductors.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Oh yes, I came across this when I used to teach a business writing course and many of the adults there still believed that it was 'wrong' to start a sentence with 'and ' or 'but'. I pointed out the many distiguished writers who have done this many times when it is effective to do so. I think people cling to the simplistic rules-of-thumb given to them as children and never bother to update them .

Not to mention most of the first 30 or so verses of Genesis in the King James Version - generally considered to be greatest example of prose writing in the English language. However I wouldn’t start a sentence in a business letter with “and “ because it’s just not the right context. There are different styles for different contexts - from texting to the literary novel.

[Andrew Slater]

Imagine my reaction on learning that Ohm's Law (V=IR ) doesn't hold all the time: some materials do not obey Ohm's law; these are called non-ohmic.

I'm not sure about this: don't you mean that R is not strictly constant, and can be defined as a function of applied voltage and resulting current, among other things, the function depending on the material? Even in copper R isn't constant - for instance it increases with increasing temperature, which of course is influenced by external conditions and also by the current, I. For any instantaneous value of R, I think the law should hold. (In fact the definition of the instantaneous resistance R is V/I.)