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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #31
    Originally posted by doversoul View Post
    What has all that got to do with this event? This is about the BBC’s policies on its radio stations.
    Some people seem to think that "classical music" will die out because no-one plays it to youngsters.
    As no-one actually HAS the running order of this gig then it's a bit premature to suggest that there's no 'classical music' in it (or should that be "innit" )

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    • french frank
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      • Feb 2007
      • 30329

      #32
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      Some people seem to think that "classical music" will die out because no-one plays it to youngsters.
      As no-one actually HAS the running order of this gig then it's a bit premature to suggest that there's no 'classical music' in it (or should that be "innit" )
      We do know what's been announced. The classical music is Bernstein's Candide Overture, the 3rd movt of Mendelssohn's E minor vc, Recondita armonia, and I think one other piece. It's the rest that is questionable, but one is an orchestration of "God Only Knows" so perhaps not altogether inappropriate.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
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        #33
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        We do know what's been announced. The classical music is Bernstein's Candide Overture, the 3rd movt of Mendelssohn's E minor vc, Recondita armonia, and I think one other piece. It's the rest that is questionable, but one is an orchestration of "God Only Knows" so perhaps not altogether inappropriate.
        Ok

        In what way, in this variety show thing, are the pieces you mention NOT 'classical music' ?

        These things are always cr*p , always have been

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
          • 30329

          #34
          Plus the Méditation from Thaïs. At least two straight from CFM's Hall of Fame.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #35
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Plus the Méditation from Thaïs. At least two straight from CFM's Hall of Fame.
            I refer you to my previous sentence

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            • french frank
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              • Feb 2007
              • 30329

              #36
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              In what way, in this variety show thing, are the pieces you mention NOT 'classical music' ?
              I didn't suggest nothing could be called classical music (though the Bernstein is only included out of deference to the Breakfast production team of whom it is a favourite). But it's a 2-hour concert and there is some sort of objection to at least three pieces.

              It's the bulk of the rest. It's already been posted somewhere, but:

              Overture Candide (Leonard Bernstein) - BBC SSO
              God Only Knows (new arrangement by Steve Sidwell) - BBC SSO
              Granada (Augustin Lara ) - Noah Stewart (tenor)
              My Fair Lady Overture (Frederick Loewe) BBC SSO
              The Hipsters (new arrangement Martin Williams) - Deacon Blue:
              Tros Y Garreg - Catrin Finch:
              Gulabi Aankhen - Jaz Dhami:
              Violin Concerto (3rd movement) Mendelssohn:- Jack Liebeck (violin)
              Procession Of The Nobles (Rimsky Korsakov) – BBC SSO
              Long Window To Love (new arrangement by Martin Williams) - Deacon Blue
              Recondita Armonia (Puccini) - Noah Stewart (tenor)
              Solstice - Catrin Finch
              Let Ramensky Go - Claire Hastings
              Meditation (Thais) - Jack Liebeck (violin)
              Chura liya hai tumne - Jaz Dhami
              Where the Poor Boys Dance - Lulu

              Forgot the Rimsky.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #37
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                I didn't suggest nothing could be called classical music (though the Bernstein is only included out of deference to the Breakfast production team of whom it is a favourite). But it's a 2-hour concert and there is some sort of objection to at least three pieces.

                It's the bulk of the rest. It's already been posted somewhere, but:

                Overture Candide (Leonard Bernstein) - BBC SSO
                God Only Knows (new arrangement by Steve Sidwell) - BBC SSO
                Granada (Augustin Lara ) - Noah Stewart (tenor)
                My Fair Lady Overture (Frederick Loewe) BBC SSO
                The Hipsters (new arrangement Martin Williams) - Deacon Blue:
                Tros Y Garreg - Catrin Finch:
                Gulabi Aankhen - Jaz Dhami:
                Violin Concerto (3rd movement) Mendelssohn:- Jack Liebeck (violin)
                Procession Of The Nobles (Rimsky Korsakov) – BBC SSO
                Long Window To Love (new arrangement by Martin Williams) - Deacon Blue
                Recondita Armonia (Puccini) - Noah Stewart (tenor)
                Solstice - Catrin Finch
                Let Ramensky Go - Claire Hastings
                Meditation (Thais) - Jack Liebeck (violin)
                Chura liya hai tumne - Jaz Dhami
                Where the Poor Boys Dance - Lulu

                Forgot the Rimsky.
                OK

                Sad that they seem to have missed out any serial or electroacoustic music as well

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30329

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  OK

                  Sad that they seem to have missed out any serial or electroacoustic music as well
                  It's a Radio 2 programme, fer goodness sake.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #39
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    It's a Radio 2 programme, fer goodness sake.
                    Where's Johnny Cash?
                    I'd tune in for him

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30329

                      #40
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      Where's Johnny Cash?
                      I'd tune in for him
                      Yes, I expect you'd prefer that to B Tommy Andersson's Satyricon and Mahler 2 (next Thursday's concert).

                      Anyway, the mystery is why, exactly, is Radio 3 broadcasting Radio 2's variety show when Radio 2 is also broadcasting it? Shortage of money? Thinking Radio 3 listeners might grow to like Lulu or Deacon Blue …?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • subcontrabass
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2780

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Honoured Guest View Post

                        On this topic of the inaugural BBC Music Day, some Forumistas seem unaware that the BBCSSO gala concert is just the climactic event and that it follows about twelve hours of Radio 3 programmes featuring live music, much of it classical, from throughout the UK. As well as special programming on other BBC stations. And, yes, BBC Music Day is a celebration of all genres of music, with a special focus on community participation.
                        12 hours on one day - how things have declined. Contrast with "Music Live" in 2000: 1000 hours over five days ( http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...peiiMr41qWSlHb ) - lots of community participation - lots of activity on all BBC national radio stations and on BBC1 and BBC2.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30329

                          #42
                          Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                          12 hours on one day - how things have declined. Contrast with "Music Live" in 2000: 1000 hours over five days ( http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...peiiMr41qWSlHb ) - lots of community participation - lots of activity on all BBC national radio stations and on BBC1 and BBC2.
                          Six hours of it given over to Satie's Vexations - THAT'S Radio 3. Or was.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • MrGongGong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #43
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Six hours of it given over to Satie's Vexations - THAT'S Radio 3. Or was.
                            THIS is what we want
                            How about La Monte Young as CoTW (again)?

                            How could I forgot about this

                            Beat This! At noon on Monday 29th May, a drumming beacon relay will be ignited by a group called The Different Drums of Ireland, performing on the City Walls of Derry. The group will play a drumming motif created by six of the world’s leading percussionists. The beat will travel across the length of Northern Ireland and spread to the to the North of Scotland, then south to England and Wales, finishing in the Channel Islands. On route it will bring a long thousands of drummers of every kind - African, Rock’n’Roll, massed samba bands, the famous Kodo Drummers and classical percussionists, as well as human beat boxes and rank amateurs joining in for the very first time, beating out the biggest noise the UK has ever known.
                            I was at a wind turbine in Norfolk, I put an ultrasonic sensor on the top which triggered a series of samples everytime the blades of the turbine broke the invisible beam and relayed this to a large group on the ground.... but (in true BBC style ) the Satellite truck linking us all together (I remember having a click track being sent from London in my ear) lost synchronisation so that most of the broadcast consisted of the effervescent Kevin Hathaway in Leicester with the Philharmonia and a large group of RCM students.....

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30329

                              #44
                              The nearest we get this year is Hadrian's Wall of Sound:

                              BBC Music Day’s ambitious Hadrian’s Wall of Sound - a unique relay of music along the length of the wall, from Carlisle to North Tyneside, involving hundreds of performers from across the North of England.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                #45
                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                The nearest we get this year is Hadrian's Wall of Sound:
                                I suspect (and having done several other similar things since with much improved technology) that this will actually work this time

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