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  • antongould
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8774

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post
    After a prolonged 'defection' to Radio 4, I'm now firmly back in the 'Breakfast' fold. The choice of words and music as we approach 11.11.2018 has at times been inspired and deeply moving. I've just been listening to the words of Rupert Brooke spoken by Tim Piggott-Smith and sung by Roderick Williams. Unlike certain other presenters, Petroc doesn't seem to feel the need to prove anything.
    Indeed

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30207

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
      After a prolonged 'defection' to Radio 4, I'm now firmly back in the 'Breakfast' fold. The choice of words and music as we approach 11.11.2018 has at times been inspired and deeply moving. I've just been listening to the words of Rupert Brooke spoken by Tim Piggott-Smith and sung by Roderick Williams. Unlike certain other presenters, Petroc doesn't seem to feel the need to prove anything.
      Lucky for Radio 3. Others of us don't feel so magnanimous. Radio 3 has always recognised that its competition comes, not from any other radio stations, but from alternative ways to spend one's time.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9135

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Lucky for Radio 3. Others of us don't feel so magnanimous. Radio 3 has always recognised that its competition comes, not from any other radio stations, but from alternative ways to spend one's time.
        Really? Or were you being sarcastic?

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        • cloughie
          Full Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 22110

          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
          After a prolonged 'defection' to Radio 4, I'm now firmly back in the 'Breakfast' fold. The choice of words and music as we approach 11.11.2018 has at times been inspired and deeply moving. I've just been listening to the words of Rupert Brooke spoken by Tim Piggott-Smith and sung by Roderick Williams. Unlike certain other presenters, Petroc doesn't seem to feel the need to prove anything.
          I don’t if he aired on Breakfast, but our ‘Cornishman in London’ got a mention on Radio Cornwall as he was speaking up for the need to sort out the rail link to the Duchy!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30207

            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
            Really? Or were you being sarcastic?
            Not really. Why? LMcD may be 'firmly back in the Breakfast fold' after a 'prolonged defection'. Others of us have simply found alternative things to do.

            I was merely thinking of RW's answer years ago to a Government Inspector when asked if Radio 3 was 'in competition' [with any other radio service i.e. CFM]. He replied that the competition was for the multiple alternatives, musical and non musical, that were available and which could be chosen in preference to listening to Radio 3.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25190

              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              I don’t if he aired on Breakfast, but our ‘Cornishman in London’ got a mention on Radio Cornwall as he was speaking up for the need to sort out the rail link to the Duchy!
              Boy does that need sorting out.
              National disgrace !
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22110

                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                Boy does that need sorting out.
                National disgrace !
                The Okehampton line needs to be renewed.

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                • underthecountertenor
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1584

                  Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                  After a prolonged 'defection' to Radio 4, I'm now firmly back in the 'Breakfast' fold. The choice of words and music as we approach 11.11.2018 has at times been inspired and deeply moving. I've just been listening to the words of Rupert Brooke spoken by Tim Piggott-Smith and sung by Roderick Williams. Unlike certain other presenters, Petroc doesn't seem to feel the need to prove anything.


                  Also, to lighten the mood, there was a nice bit of humour on the part of the newsreader Chris Berrow on Tuesday when, introducing the last news item, about a big hole being bored in Cornwall (of course), he said 'in boring news'.

                  There's a quiet confidence about the way PT and his team go about their business these days, in my view. (Although, to be slightly critical, I do find the way he pronounces 'Bach' these days to be just a tiny bit affected).

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8774

                    He gave the weather for Hartlepool last week .... top man ....

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8396

                      Originally posted by antongould View Post
                      He gave the weather for Hartlepool last week .... top man ....
                      ...and for Felixstowe today! I think 'quiet confidence' (#7718) is right - and I loved the reference to 'boring news'.

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                      • oddoneout
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9135

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Not really. Why? LMcD may be 'firmly back in the Breakfast fold' after a 'prolonged defection'. Others of us have simply found alternative things to do.

                        I was merely thinking of RW's answer years ago to a Government Inspector when asked if Radio 3 was 'in competition' [with any other radio service i.e. CFM]. He replied that the competition was for the multiple alternatives, musical and non musical, that were available and which could be chosen in preference to listening to Radio 3.
                        Fair enough. I was under the impression that one reason for the contentious morning schedule format was, in effect, competition with CFM for listeners.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30207

                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          Fair enough. I was under the impression that one reason for the contentious morning schedule format was, in effect, competition with CFM for listeners.
                          I was merely quoting what RW said. As for your impression, I couldn't possibly comment :-/

                          Though, having said that it's win some, lose some. Why do they want to attract CFM listeners and lose R3 listeners in the process (average age for the station now knocking 60 so if they intended to get younger listeners …)?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9135

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            I was merely quoting what RW said. As for your impression, I couldn't possibly comment :-/

                            Though, having said that it's win some, lose some. Why do they want to attract CFM listeners and lose R3 listeners in the process (average age for the station now knocking 60 so if they intended to get younger listeners …)?
                            The perennial question.."and answer came there none". There is perhaps a blind faith(naive assumption?) that the younger(possibly) newly recruited morning audience will somehow develop into afternoon and evening audiences to keep the numbers up and improve the age profile.
                            I can do my bit in one respect - lifelong listener still in the morning audience - but can't do much about the age profile except to contribute to the wrong end of it!

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22110

                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                              The perennial question.."and answer came there none". There is perhaps a blind faith(naive assumption?) that the younger(possibly) newly recruited morning audience will somehow develop into afternoon and evening audiences to keep the numbers up and improve the age profile.
                              I can do my bit in one respect - lifelong listener still in the morning audience - but can't do much about the age profile except to contribute to the wrong end of it!
                              Considering the BBC claims to be making giant steps in diversity and equal opprtunities and employing loads of women to primetime spots it rapidly becoming incredibly ageist in its treatment of its licence-paying audience.

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25190

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                Considering the BBC claims to be making giant steps in diversity and equal opprtunities and employing loads of women to primetime spots it rapidly becoming incredibly ageist in its treatment of its licence-paying audience.
                                Since the BBC now pays the cost of the over 75's free licence, maybe this contributes to the ageism ?

                                Anyway, its fine, some isms are ok, some aren't. Just depends which newspaper you read.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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