The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

But they are ‘important’ if they cause listeners to reach for the Off button or just seethe and put up with them. That isn’t what RW and popular radio intend.

Of course not, but they do appear to think it's great, and that to be like Chris Evans is somehow not a huge embarrassment.

[cloughie]

Shame on me I have never heard of it cloughers ........ Willington - yes, Mann - yes but Man no ......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX2hbcA1LD4

[oddoneout]

That fence must be mighty uncomfortable.

Not too bad thank you, and worth it for seeing what's going on each side.

[antongould]

I see we're all getting sucked into the idea of inflating the importance of the presenter, over and above the musical content.

Roger Wright et al would have been proud of us.

I may be wrong EA, but do you not often start these bouts by taking the Squire's breath away ........

[MrGongGong]

Oooh...how about we have a pointless week with Petroc down in the forest glen. The Breakfast team never cease to amaze me that they can still find new ways to plumb the depths of banality.

I thought lots of this was fantastic
one of the few times i've gone out of my way to llisten to R3 in the morning
Great to see acoustic ecology becoming more mainstream and NOT consisting of endless (though wonderful) Chris Watson

More like this would be great IMV

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I may be wrong EA, but do you not often start these bouts by taking the Squire's breath away ........

Guilty as. Charged but. Perhaps I could claim some. Vindication on the ground that I. Am merely commenting on what. Actually happens on. A. Daily.

Basis I can appreciate that I. Do harp on a bit it's. Something of an idée. Fixe with me because it's so. Disconcerting to listen.

To sorry.

[antongould]

Guilty as. Charged but. Perhaps I could claim some. Vindication on the ground that I. Am merely commenting on what. Actually happens on. A. Daily.

Basis I can appreciate that I. Do harp on a bit it's. Something of an idée. Fixe with me because it's so. Disconcerting to listen.

To sorry.

[LMcD]

Guilty as. Charged but. Perhaps I could claim some. Vindication on the ground that I. Am merely commenting on what. Actually happens on. A. Daily.

Basis I can appreciate that I. Do harp on a bit it's. Something of an idée. Fixe with me because it's so. Disconcerting to listen.

To sorry.

You should do what I did, and buy what turned out buy a set of magic radios and TVs. I don't know how they do it, but PT sounds perfectly normal when he's talking to me of a morning, regardless of which radio set or TV I'm tuned to. (Unfortunately, they can't do ANYTHING about Tom Service's delivery ....)

[DracoM]

.........oh yes they could.................!!!!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

You should do what I did, and buy what turned out buy a set of magic radios and TVs. I don't know how they do it, but PT sounds perfectly normal when he's talking to me of a morning, regardless of which radio set or TV I'm tuned to.

I suspect some people have become so accustomed to this way of. Speaking. That is has started. To Sound.... Normal.

(Captain Smollett should sort him out.)

(Unfortunately, they can't do ANYTHING about Tom Service's delivery ....)

They could start by removing all background music when he's speaking.
Then they could use a digital speech-slowing device.

(Or they could sack him and find someone better.)

[french frank]

(Or they could sack him and find someone better.)

Tom knows his music and is enthusiastic about it (at least, he sounds it). These aspects are valued by today's Radio3 (they just can't find many who are knowledgeable). Unfortunately, the concept of a 'good broadcasting voice (and technique)' does not exist in today's BBC or they would train their broadcasters to speak.

[teamsaint]

Tom knows his music and is enthusiastic about it (at least, he sounds it). These aspects are valued by today's Radio3 (they just can't find many who are knowledgeable). Unfortunately, the concept of a 'good broadcasting voice (and technique)' does not exist in today's BBC or they would train their broadcasters to speak.

If that is true, I'd suggest the aren't looking very hard, or in the right places.

[french frank]

If that is true, I'd suggest the aren't looking very hard, or in the right places.

I'd say that is also true. First, they seem to look within the BBC so that they can 'bundle' various duties at lower cost. General duties people.

[teamsaint]

I'd say that is also true. First, they seem to look within the BBC so that they can 'bundle' various duties at lower cost. General duties people.

And the cost thing baffles me. I mean, I work in an industry where costs are cut to the bone, and creative work is often done by talented people at rock bottom rates because it is an attractive industry, and people want to invest in their career,as it is now seen. I also see how we budget on projects, so have a decent understanding of the marginal costs involved.

But I really can't believe that expertise within the music world, the one that has many of its foundations in music colleges and University departments , is really very expensive.
? Professors earn about £60k, so a daily rate of £400 would be generous, I should think.And of course there is even less expensive real expertise out there.Oxbridge DoM's for example, earn less, as do many performers.

It seems to me to be about a lack of will, not a lack of resource

[french frank]

It seems to me to be about a lack of will, not a lack of resource

I wouldn't disagree with that either. The other side of it is making things less complicated. A 150-minute programme (or 180-minute), same time every day, same two presenters, on and on for year after year: it runs on wheels. Think of it as a basket: each day the basket starts empty, the separate items are put in to fill the basket, then the programme is broadcast with the items being thrown out one by one; and you end up with your empty basket again ready to be refilled for the next day (with a list of handy standby items to top up when you run out of ideas).

Why do you want to go out looking for new people?