The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[cloughie]

... did you mean mediæval?



.

Or maybe even media evil!

[teamsaint]

Or maybe even media evil!

oh very good !!

[LMcD]

PT played a very nice piece for brass band this morning which he identified as 'The Shepherd's Song' but I recognized it as the 'Bailero' from the Songs of the Auvergne.
I DID hear a little gasp at one point, but am pleased to say that it did not detract from my overall enjoyment.....

[cloughie]

PT played a very nice piece for brass band this morning which he identified as 'The Shepherd's Song' but I recognized it as the 'Bailero' from the Songs of the Auvergne.
I DID hear a little gasp at one point, but am pleased to say that it did not detract from my overall enjoyment.....

Bailero played by a brass band, particulary outdoor on a summer evening, can sound wonderful.

[vinteuil]

Bailero played by a brass band, particulary outdoor on a summer evening, can sound wonderful.

... as long as it is played very far away.


cf bagpipes.


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[Zucchini]

... as long as it is played very far away.

... much further than that - very. very. very far away

[LMcD]

Go on, give it a listen - it's lovely!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b3ft9h#play

1 hour and 20 minutes in

[cloughie]

... as long as it is played very far away.


cf bagpipes.


.

No, across a pub garden, preferably with a pint of a pleasant summer ale in hand and thoughts of bagpipes, nowhere near enough to spoil the moment.

[LeMartinPecheur]

PT played a very nice piece for brass band this morning which he identified as 'The Shepherd's Song' but I recognized it as the 'Bailero' from the Songs of the Auvergne.
I DID hear a little gasp at one point, but am pleased to say that it did not detract from my overall enjoyment.....

Perhaps we needed to hear it as a folk song from the Auvergne rather than as a piece by Canteloube? (I'm not clever enough to know if C might have popped his head enough to demand copyright fees for the harmonies).

[LMcD]

If the former would stop gasping and punctuate his speech, I might start to like him.

It is thanks to this message that, curious, I decided to give '3 Breakfast' a try after a prolonged absence. I now find myself listening to it more frequently and for longer - not least because of PT's style of presentation. Perhaps this is partly for negative reasons - he lacks the (arguably forced) subversiveness of Ian Skelly and the (probably ingrained) schoolmarmish authoritarianism of Suzy Klein - but what I might call his informed informality is attractive. Regarding the content of the programme - well, the SS Full Works sailed some time ago, and at least one is not repeatedly urged to join in as an unpaid programme planner. The way things are going, my defection to the 'Today' programme may well be restricted to the first hour or so.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Well the "style" infected Rob Cowan too. I had assumed that it was part of a BBC directive: speak like a Dalek, so that you never appear to come to the end of a sentence. Then the listeners will not switch off.

I think I've cracked it - the reason for the peculiarly unnatural punctuation of several R3 presenters. It came to me yesterday morning as I travelled on a Southern train from London Bridge to Honor Oak Park. The interminable on-board announcements sound very similar to PT on R3. Only the words are different. "Welcome to the Southern. service. to. Caterham. This train will call at. New Cross Gate. Brockley. Honor Oak Park. Forest Hill..." etc.

I suggest that all the spontaneous Breakfast talk is actually pre-recorded words and phrases, linked together BT a technician. The presenters themselves may actually be in the USA or Zimbabwe.

[LMcD]

I think I've cracked it - the reason for the peculiarly unnatural punctuation of several R3 presenters. It came to me yesterday morning as I travelled on a Southern train from London Bridge to Honor Oak Park. The interminable on-board announcements sound very similar to PT on R3. Only the words are different. "Welcome to the Southern. service. to. Caterham. This train will call at. New Cross Gate. Brockley. Honor Oak Park. Forest Hill..." etc.

I suggest that all the spontaneous Breakfast talk is actually pre-recorded words and phrases, linked together BT a technician. The presenters themselves may actually be in the USA or Zimbabwe.

Congratulations on finding a Southern Rail train that was actually running.

[french frank]

I didn't notice odd puntuation, or gasps. But I think this is a variant of what I once heard described as the "BBC plonking style". The unnecessary and unnatural stresses on certain words, emphasising them for no particular reason. No ordinary flow and rhythm to the sentences. I imagine that people who listen to a lot of broadcasting get used to it.

[Zucchini]

I suggest that all the spontaneous Breakfast talk is actually pre-recorded words and phrases, linked together BT a technician. The presenters themselves may actually be in the USA or Zimbabwe.

Or the presenters could be malfunctioning androids made out of baked bean tins ...

[Serial_Apologist]

I didn't notice odd puntuation, or gasps. But I think this is a variant of what I once heard described as the "BBC plonking style". The unnecessary and unnatural stresses on certain words, emphasising them for no particular reason. No ordinary flow and rhythm to the sentences. I imagine that people who listen to a lot of broadcasting get used to it.

That seemed to come in as a new directive for delivery in the 1980s. Most seem to have abandoned it at some point, but Dimbletoes, who... presents Questiontime on.... BBC 1 still... uses it, as does his... brother on any... Questions. I can only assume it to be akin to a certain vicar of my childhood years who, by suddenly ............... halting during an otherwise extremely boring sermon, would wake up members of his inattentive congregation who where under the misapprehension that the weekly homily had reached its end.