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The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by french frank View PostClemency was last on at the end of January, and it may well be that as a very busy person she has been engaged on other projects during February. The fact that Petroc is the longest standing/permanent presenter, doesn't quite make it 'his show': it means the BBC is finding some difficulty finding women suitably qualified to act as a permanent counterpart (as CBH and SMP have been in the past).
Petroc is back next week, apparently, and the pattern in very recent weeks seems to have been two weeks on, one week off.
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At the same time that music becomes ubiquitous - and seemingly socially 'indispensable' - its intrinsic value is also downgraded; and Radio 3 goes along with that. Presenters are 'key' (more important than they were), guests brighten up music programmes explaining what music means to them, listeners chip in with their personal contributions, programme trails are to be inserted at regular intervals. And some music, truncated if possibly too long, must fit in between the important stuff.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostI got rather lost in the sub-clauses of your second sentence, but you seem to be assuming that only the finale was played. I'm not sure on what basis you make that assumption, but I can assure you that the whole sonata was played.
As for the references to 'crawling up to the highest octaves of enthusiasm' and 'squeaky gasps of astonishment', I heard the conversation in question and your description strikes me as both exaggerated and (coming the day after IWD) unfortunately gender-prejudiced.
Not sure what the proximity to IWD has to do with it either.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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I think I did well. I listened to the first 40 minutes or so. But could stand no more.
Just for me (that's me, myself, my opinion based on my own personal tastes) an awful, awful programme which desecrates the music and can scarcely settle down to anything for more than five minutes before it goes off on to something else. And I didn't even hear the exchange with KD.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostI think I did well. I listened to the first 40 minutes or so. But could stand no more.
And I didn't even hear the exchange with KD.Last edited by Andrew Slater; 09-03-18, 21:32.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostI think I did well. I listened to the first 40 minutes or so. But could stand no more.
Just for me (that's me, myself, my opinion based on my own personal tastes) an awful, awful programme which desecrates the music and can scarcely settle down to anything for more than five minutes before it goes off on to something else. And I didn't even hear the exchange with KD.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post(I think I might have emitted audible gasps in those circumstances.)
... though the other day, I began to think there was a more serious issue - dangerous gases in the studio perhaps?
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No one would deny (I imagine) that individual items are respectable - even very welcome. But the package, Lord Gould, the package:
Johann Strauss II Voices of Spring (at least they've stopped calling him Johann Sebastian Strauss)
JS Bach BWV 974 (one movement) played by your uncle
Fast forward to RVW Serenade to Music (oops, surely some mistake - it looks like the whole thing; still under 15 minutes)
A couple of Geordie songs, because we're in Gateshead
Fast backward to Telemann
Bizet, Rautavaara, Schubert D899/3, Waxman (ooh, Carmen Fantasy - nice), another bit of another Bach, Britten, another bit of folk followed by Wolfgang Amadeus, triumphantly topped by B Herrman's North byNortheastNorthwest
I can't be the only person, surely, who can't cope with this, I think the phrase is pot pourri - with the emphasis on the pourri. I don't understand the point of listening to it.
[Huge apology for 'slagging off' the damn programme again)
Originally posted by antongould View PostInterested to find where Alkers sits in the Gushing and Gasping charts ..... but as she has just played Jack Robson's wonderful Cheviot Hills sung by the Lord of Seaham Harbour she'll do for me Geordie ......It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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