The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[LMcD]

You mean we realise it's always been like this? Yes, and on the other hand it draws attention usefully to the inequity - and its effects: I'm sure there are some who miss the presence of the usual DWMs, and even LWMs, and therefore they must understand how others miss the presence of the women composers.

It's a bit CFM only to appreciate what is familiar

Perhaps I haven't been paying attention, but:
DWM = ?
LWM = ?
CFM = Classic FM?
(One of John Humphrys's strengths as an interviewer is that anybody using too many abbreviations or too much jargon is politely interrupted while he (JH that is) explains it or asks his guest to do so. This almost always has the desired effect).

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Dead White Males
Living White Males
(and, yes; Classic Frequency Modulation)

Hope that helps, Lovable Man can Do.

[french frank]

Dead White Males
Living White Males
(and, yes; Classic Frequency Modulation)

Hope that helps, Lovable Man can Do.

In my defence I was using DWM in a somewhat ironic way to accommodate those who think in those terms, invariably in a disparaging way (LDBs (Long Dead Buffers) are fine by me!). I used LWM on the analogy: being altogether less distasteful to some people, the acronym is less frequently encountered …

[Barbirollians]

Who was this morning's guest presenter ?

[underthecountertenor]

Who was this morning's guest presenter ?

Georgia Mann. I wouldn't call her a 'guest' anymore. She seems to have taken over from Clemency as the regular stand-in for Petroc.

[french frank]

Georgia Mann. I wouldn't call her a 'guest' anymore. She seems to have taken over from Clemency as the regular stand-in for Petroc.

She's been presenting all week. I'm not sure that it's right to call her a 'stand-in for Petroc'. Breakfast has two presenters, one man, one woman: they alternate.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

She's been presenting all week. I'm not sure that it's right to call her a 'stand-in for Petroc'. Breakfast has two presenters, one man, one woman: they alternate.

Is GM a "stand-in" for Clemmie?

[Padraig]

Is GM a "stand-in" for Clemmie?

"Who cares, Habibi, they're gorgeous."

[underthecountertenor]

She's been presenting all week. I'm not sure that it's right to call her a 'stand-in for Petroc'. Breakfast has two presenters, one man, one woman: they alternate.

But it seems to me to be a very unequal alternation. Certainly it was when Clemency was the alternate. In fact, as often as not, when Petroc was absent he seemed to be replaced by Ian Skelly.

Georgia Mann has been introduced with so little fanfare that the impression I get is very much that Breakfast is now Petroc's domain rather there being a true alternation.

Oddly enough, the Breakfast home page still shows Petroc and Clemency sharing the studio, but as far as I can tell Clemency is permanently on other duties these days.

[teamsaint]

I tuned into Breakfast yesterday briefly, and caught a piece where GM was praising the virtues of Ravel’s house.


Which she told us twice that we can no longer visit.


Still at least I didnt make a pointless spur of the moment trip........

[LMcD]

Dead White Males
Living White Males
(and, yes; Classic Frequency Modulation)

Hope that helps, Lovable Man can Do.

Many thanks, Friendly Helpful Gent!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

[french frank]

But it seems to me to be a very unequal alternation. Certainly it was when Clemency was the alternate. In fact, as often as not, when Petroc was absent he seemed to be replaced by Ian Skelly.

Georgia Mann has been introduced with so little fanfare that the impression I get is very much that Breakfast is now Petroc's domain rather there being a true alternation.

Oddly enough, the Breakfast home page still shows Petroc and Clemency sharing the studio, but as far as I can tell Clemency is permanently on other duties these days.

Clemency was last on at the end of January, and it may well be that as a very busy person she has been engaged on other projects during February. The fact that Petroc is the longest standing/permanent presenter, doesn't quite make it 'his show': it means the BBC is finding some difficulty finding women suitably qualified to act as a permanent counterpart (as CBH and SMP have been in the past).

[antongould]

But it seems to me to be a very unequal alternation. Certainly it was when Clemency was the alternate. In fact, as often as not, when Petroc was absent he seemed to be replaced by Ian Skelly.

Georgia Mann has been introduced with so little fanfare that the impression I get is very much that Breakfast is now Petroc's domain rather there being a true alternation.

Oddly enough, the Breakfast home page still shows Petroc and Clemency sharing the studio, but as far as I can tell Clemency is permanently on other duties these days.

I think you are correct unders ........

[antongould]

Clemency was last on at the end of January, and it may well be that as a very busy person she has been engaged on other projects during February. The fact that Petroc is the longest standing/permanent presenter, doesn't quite make it 'his show': it means the BBC is finding some difficulty finding women suitably qualified to act as a permanent counterpart (as CBH and SMP have been in the past).

But I'm sure Georgia has generate some support hereabouts before .... personally I think she is fine