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  • oddoneout
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    • Nov 2015
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    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    It would be less of a problem, I imagine, if it were written down correctly (i.e. if it had an acute accent). Though she also said Skohn Abbey rather than Skoon. Surprised at a BBC type getting that wrong
    Wasn't there also reference to the edible version - I came in part way through her mea culpa apology.

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    • oddoneout
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      • Nov 2015
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      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
      You could have knocked me over with a feather when the Gloria from Carver's Missa L'homme armé popped up on Breakfast. Fabulous. (Even if the presenter - who? - missed the 'e acute' when she announced it.)
      Never mind the accent, at least it wasn't Karl Jenkins!

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
        Wasn't there also reference to the edible version - I came in part way through her mea culpa apology.
        Hmm!

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        • Stanfordian
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          • Dec 2010
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          Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
          Which reminds me of someone who recently told me that she refused to take part in a performance of Walton's Belshazzar's Feast because it was 'atonal'. She claimed to be a music graduate too.
          What with the 'Cacophony of Psalms' & 'Belshazzar's Feast' its a good job they weren't singing Ligeti's Requiem. It's funny how people can get bees in their bonnet or whatever it is over such things.

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
            You could have knocked me over with a feather when the Gloria from Carver's Missa L'homme armé popped up on Breakfast. Fabulous. (Even if the presenter - who? - missed the 'e acute' when she announced it.)
            Perhaps she was confusing the piece with the L'homme arm of the law.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
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              Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
              Which reminds me of someone who recently told me that she refused to take part in a performance of Walton's Belshazzar's Feast because it was 'atonal'. She claimed to be a music graduate too.
              Al part of the rer-writing of musical history to eliminate the advances gained in the last century. As in so many aspects of life today, we've been here before. Contemporary critics of Dvorak accused him of writing atonal music, too.

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              • underthecountertenor
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                • Apr 2011
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                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Al part of the rer-writing of musical history to eliminate the advances gained in the last century. As in so many aspects of life today, we've been here before. Contemporary critics of Dvorak accused him of writing atonal music, too.
                You would have thought that music higher education would have improved a bit since then, though. Perhaps she simply wasn't paying attention when atonality was taught.

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30286

                  Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                  Wasn't there also reference to the edible version - I came in part way through her mea culpa apology.
                  That would have been skonn to rhyme with gone. I missed the sua culpa.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Al part of the rer-writing of musical history to eliminate the advances gained in the last century. As in so many aspects of life today, we've been here before. Contemporary critics of Dvorak accused him of writing atonal music, too.
                    Well he was emulated by Ives in the latter's graduation symphony. What more proof could one need?

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Well he was emulated by Ives in the latter's graduation symphony. What more proof could one need?

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                      • oddoneout
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                        • Nov 2015
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                        Apparently Robert Hollingworth of I Fagiolini is not averse to contacting the programme. Not sure whether mentioning his contributions this morning was as part of the general tweemail quota or as a dig at detractors of the quality and premise of the 'show'.

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                        • french frank
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30286

                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          Apparently Robert Hollingworth of I Fagiolini is not averse to contacting the programme. Not sure whether mentioning his contributions this morning was as part of the general tweemail quota or as a dig at detractors of the quality and premise of the 'show'.
                          Waddee say, odders?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • cloughie
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                            • Dec 2011
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                            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                            Apparently Robert Hollingworth of I Fagiolini is not averse to contacting the programme. Not sure whether mentioning his contributions this morning was as part of the general tweemail quota or as a dig at detractors of the quality and premise of the 'show'.
                            Perhaps he's pitching for a presenter spot!

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                            • DaisyDog
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                              • Jun 2016
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                              Hollingworth as presenter? That would be interesting. A knowledgable enthusiast. More so than many of the current crop of youngsters. Especially those who really do not have essential presenting skills, particularly the 'ers' and 'ums' brigade like Georgia Mann and Verity Sharp. Are they not trained how to speak proper?

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                              • underthecountertenor
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                                • Apr 2011
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                                Originally posted by DaisyDog View Post
                                Hollingworth as presenter? That would be interesting. A knowledgable enthusiast. More so than many of the current crop of youngsters. Especially those who really do not have essential presenting skills, particularly the 'ers' and 'ums' brigade like Georgia Mann and Verity Sharp. Are they not trained how to speak proper?
                                I don't mind the odd 'er' and 'um' and am certainly not aware of Mann overdoing them. At least she doesn't pepper her speech with 'like' like so many of like her contemporaries.

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