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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22110

    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
    But it is of interest to those in the North - and this is a national radio station!

    OG
    ...and to Yorkshiremen in Cornwall!

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      ...and to Yorkshiremen in Cornwall!
      ... and anyone interested in structural engineering anywhere in the world. Another of DaisyDog's DozeyDigs.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9135

        And I’m not sure that the history of the Humber bridge is of great interest to folks from the southern regions.
        Not all of us are afraid of evidence of another world beyond our own parochial horizons. I for one welcome the opportunity to hear about subjects/places I would not otherwise have occasion to encounter.
        Tom Service's input on the morning in question was limited to some rather disjointed waffling about his forbear and the recitation of the poem, the equivalent in disturbance terms(if one is not a TS fan) of the playing of a short bit of noisy music - hardly the same as presenting the whole programme.

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        • seabright
          Full Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 625

          Does anyone else find the Breakfast music levels awfully low sometimes? I set the volume level so that Petroc's voice is at a good listening level but when the music itself comes in, sometimes the quiet parts are barely audible. Maybe the engineers think it's better that way, rather than being too loud first thing in the morning? The Jerome Moross piece just now was a case in point!

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9135

            Originally posted by seabright View Post
            Does anyone else find the Breakfast music levels awfully low sometimes? I set the volume level so that Petroc's voice is at a good listening level but when the music itself comes in, sometimes the quiet parts are barely audible. Maybe the engineers think it's better that way, rather than being too loud first thing in the morning? The Jerome Moross piece just now was a case in point!
            Yes. The imbalance between presenter and music is tiresome, not least because it varies - and not just according to which presenter is involved. As the spoken elements tend to travel to a greater extent anyway I find myself doing a lot of 'adjustment' to avoid annoying the neighbours with a sudden booming 'and that was...'
            Perhaps, as a RT reader suggested some time ago re the problems of so-called background music obliterating the programme subject matter on TV, the folks involved need to listen to the output on the kind of set-up that the public is likely to be using, rather than their studio one. I forget the ins and outs but there was an explanation of how what sounds OK to the producers gets out of balance at the receiving end and thus annoys the public.

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            • Bax-of-Delights
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 745

              I see, as part of the BBC's "gay" season we are to have a "gay" composer feature each day. I am pretty certain that I care not two hoots if Szymanowski was a gay man nor that I needed to know this before listening to his Concert Overture nor that it changes my opinion of his music.

              Just why?
              O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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              • Stanfordian
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 9308

                Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                I see, as part of the BBC's "gay" season we are to have a "gay" composer feature each day. I am pretty certain that I care not two hoots if Szymanowski was a gay man nor that I needed to know this before listening to his Concert Overture nor that it changes my opinion of his music.

                Just why?
                These recurring themes are so tiresome. I agree a composer's sexual preference means nothing to me I just want to hear the music. Soon it will be something else to trumpet. ‘Thought the Night’ is the sort of programming I now enjoy.

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                • alycidon
                  Full Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 459

                  Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                  I see, as part of the BBC's "gay" season we are to have a "gay" composer feature each day. I am pretty certain that I care not two hoots if Szymanowski was a gay man nor that I needed to know this before listening to his Concert Overture nor that it changes my opinion of his music.

                  Just why?
                  Because the BBC is pushing the gay agenda like mad, and it's getting extremely tedious.
                  Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by alycidon View Post
                    Because the BBC is pushing the gay agenda like mad, and it's getting extremely tedious.
                    Or - it is commemorating the half-century of the partial decriminalization of homosexuality in a series of programmes on television and radio that many people (myself included) have found interesting and moving. Granted, the Breakfast "theme" is simplistic and naff - but what else have we been led to expect from this programme?
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • jean
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7100

                      What is 'the gay agenda', please?

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16122

                        Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                        I see, as part of the BBC's "gay" season we are to have a "gay" composer feature each day. I am pretty certain that I care not two hoots if Szymanowski was a gay man nor that I needed to know this before listening to his Concert Overture nor that it changes my opinion of his music.

                        Just why?
                        But, since you mention the Concert Overture, Richard Strauss wasn't gay!...

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16122

                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Or - it is commemorating the half-century of the partial decriminalization of homosexuality in a series of programmes on television and radio that many people (myself included) have found interesting and moving. Granted, the Breakfast "theme" is simplistic and naff - but what else have we been led to expect from this programme?
                          Of course that's what it is and, as you rightly observe, its manifestation in Breakfast is naff and lets it and itself down.

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                          • Bax-of-Delights
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 745

                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            But, since you mention the Concert Overture, Richard Strauss wasn't gay!...
                            Szymanowski - or perhaps you are implying that Szymanowski was aping R.Strauss? It certainly sounds Straussian!
                            O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16122

                              Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                              Szymanowski - or perhaps you are implying that Szymanowski was aping R.Strauss? It certainly sounds Straussian!
                              You got it! It's more like Richard Strauss than Richard Strauss could be! I've played it to at least a couple of dozen people over the years and they've all identified it as Strauss, although a few have added "but what is it?"...
                              Last edited by ahinton; 01-09-17, 11:18.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20569

                                Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                                These recurring themes are so tiresome. I agree a composer's sexual preference means nothing to me I just want to hear the music. Soon it will be something else to trumpet. ‘Thought the Night’ is the sort of programming I now enjoy.

                                I agree. I don't like Tchaikovsky's, Britten's, or Tippett's music any more, or less, on account of their personal preferences.

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