The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Lat-Literal]

I like Petroc as a presenter but what I don't like about the programme is the news.

In my first 100 days as BBC radio controller, I promise to reduce the number of news bulletins on R3 and 6 Music to four a day or take out the news altogether as on R4E.

[oddoneout]

This seems to be an affectation exhibited by a number of presenters, notably Griff Rhys Jones and Paul Martin of Cash in the Attic - who just whispers the end of sentences. It is mightily annoying for everybody, but particularly those of us with defective hearing, and I don't know why the producers don't pull them up for it.

Monty Don is another who's good at losing chunks of speech.

[oddoneout]

I like Petroc as a presenter but what I don't like about the programme is the news.

In my first 100 days as BBC radio controller, I promise to reduce the number of news bulletins on R3 and 6 Music to four a day or take out the news altogether as on R4E.

I find it quite useful to have the bulletins in the morning as I don't have a newspaper and so can get a quick summary of what's happening, and then if necessary follow up elsewhere. The frequency reduces after 9 am and as the day goes on, as one might expect. Removing the frequently (negatively) mentioned non-functional speech segments( trailers, tweets and other assorted trash) would achieve more than removing the news as far as I'm concerned.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Removing the frequently (negatively) mentioned non-functional speech segments( trailers, tweets and other assorted trash) would achieve more than removing the news as far as I'm concerned.

A perfect solution.

[vinteuil]

I find it quite useful to have the bulletins in the morning as I don't have a newspaper and so can get a quick summary of what's happening.

... but you do, I think, have access to the internet & world wide web???

[Lat-Literal]

I find it quite useful to have the bulletins in the morning as I don't have a newspaper and so can get a quick summary of what's happening, and then if necessary follow up elsewhere. The frequency reduces after 9 am and as the day goes on, as one might expect. Removing the frequently (negatively) mentioned non-functional speech segments( trailers, tweets and other assorted trash) would achieve more than removing the news as far as I'm concerned.

They are, unnecessarily, every half hour at that time and lengthy, especially on the hour.

My objection is not to the amount of speech but to the news fetish throughout radio. I regard it as a ludicrous imposition - imagine a concert having a news bulletin before it starts, in the interval and as people are leaving the building - in the field of the creative arts. If and when the bomb drops, there would logically be a number of stations for people to concentrate on other matters. One just knows, though, that even Hancock on R4E would be interrupted to ensure everyone is locked in by official decree to the doom and gloom.

It is precisely not how we - just and only because of news constraints - won the last war.

[Stanfordian]

A perfect solution.

Here! Here!

[teamsaint]

They are, unnecessarily, every half hour at that time and lengthy, especially on the hour.

My objection is not to the amount of speech but to the news fetish throughout radio. I regard it as a ludicrous imposition - imagine a concert having a news bulletin before it starts, in the interval and as people are leaving the building - in the field of the creative arts. If and when the bomb drops, there would logically be a number of stations for people to concentrate on other matters. One just knows, though, that even Hancock on R4E would be interrupted to ensure everyone is locked in by official decree to the doom and gloom.

It is precisely not how we - just and only because of news constraints - won the last war.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rolf-dobelli

Lat, on the subject above, do try The Scars version of " Your attention Please", ( and the album it comes from). On youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlro2TAHNvk

[ahinton]

I like Petroc as a presenter but what I don't like about the programme is the news.

In my first 100 days as BBC radio controller, I promise to reduce the number of news bulletins on R3 and 6 Music to four a day or take out the news altogether as on R4E.

When do you start in office?

[Lat-Literal]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...d-rolf-dobelli

Lat, on the subject above, do try The Scars version of " Your attention Please", ( and the album it comes from). On youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlro2TAHNvk

Those are great - many thanks.

When do you start in office?

[oddoneout]

... but you do, I think, have access to the internet & world wide web???

I had a feeling somebody would point that out! I do but it doesn't lend itself to getting on with something else at the same time(such as eating breakfast or trying to get recalcitrant joints to work) in the way that listening to the radio does in the morning. Firing up the PC takes time, I don't eat at the keyboard, sitting down to use it is not always comfortable at the beginning of the day.
If the bulletins were to be removed I wouldn't kick up a fuss about it, but I do find them useful first thing. Later in the day I would be quite happy to do without, and in any case usually do as I'm busy with other things rather than listening to the radio.

[Thropplenoggin]

I had a feeling somebody would point that out! I do but it doesn't lend itself to getting on with something else at the same time(such as eating breakfast or trying to get recalcitrant joints to work) in the way that listening to the radio does in the morning. Firing up the PC takes time, I don't eat at the keyboard, sitting down to use it is not always comfortable at the beginning of the day.
If the bulletins were to be removed I wouldn't kick up a fuss about it, but I do find them useful first thing. Later in the day I would be quite happy to do without, and in any case usually do as I'm busy with other things rather than listening to the radio.

Simpler still would be turning the dial to Radio 4.

[antongould]

I am at peace with The Squire and the News but my fear is that he has had so much fun in the pop-up and on his increasingly frequent strolls "outside" that he will hand his notice in on Monday and pick up the microphone in a hop on hop off London bus.

[french frank]

I am at peace with The Squire and the News but my fear is that he has had so much fun in the pop-up and on his increasingly frequent strolls "outside" that he will hand his notice in on Monday and pick up the microphone in a hop on hop off London bus.

He may not need to hand in his notice, if that's the next R3 outreach project

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Don't go giving them ideas.