The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I had be afoot just before 6.30 this morning and did switch on to hear the end of TTN... and caught the start of Breakfast... and it seemed to me that CB-H's voice had lost its affected lithp, and that she sounded less childish. In fact I hastened to t'internet to see if it was indeed her... errr ... she. Maybe Clemmie's growing up!

Well she must have grown up in the last two days, for she was as simpering as ever midweek (when I couldn't recall any phone-ins).

[antongould]

You'd think Ruthers could afford a bed for the night, after all those hits.


Charterhouse.. Spent a particularly long day in the field there,IIRC, not getting much movement off the pitch or through the air with my medium pacers.


Anyway, have a good trip AG, sounds fab.

( is it really windy?)

Cheers ts........Eton versus Charterhouse away one presumes.....

[teamsaint]

Cheers ts........Eton versus Charterhouse away one presumes.....

No, charity game against the local Yobs.....

Although by sheer coincidence I have also played football at Eton.

[Nick Armstrong]

We are in the Windy City Rumpole and, to attempt to catch the coat tails of your name dropping, find ourselves on the same floor as Mike Rutherford - he of Genisis and Charterhouse.....

Ahhhhhh!!

[french frank]

We are in the Windy City Rumpole and, to attempt to catch the coat tails of your name dropping, find ourselves on the same floor as Mike Rutherford - he of Genisis and Charterhouse.....

This'll be right up your street, AG.

One for the discriminating Radio 6 Music affithionathoes, I'll be bound

[AndyJW]

I don't thonk there have been for a few days, but I didn't catch any the the "show" at the weekend, but heard most of it today and there was no phone-in.

Um, serious question this: have there been any interesting phone-ins lately on B'fast? Or even just ... phone-ins?

[Nick Armstrong]

I don't thonk there have been for a few days, but I didn't catch any the the "show" at the weekend, but heard most of it today and there was no phone-in.

I noticed yesterday that it's been a few weeks since the "chart" half hour podcast was updated - has that been junked too?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

no phone in but must we continue to suffer PT/CBH doing their dreadful take on the news and what is on the front page of the papers .... if one wanted the news one might have tuned to R4 no? indeed why is there any news at all on R3 .... not in the remit and not well served by the lip service coverage ... all part of the great menu juggler's mish mash ... i bet he does not put news bulletins in the intervals at Aldeburgh!

and thanks for this gem today!

iirc this was quoted exactly

To recent generations, Mary Alwyn was known as the devoted wife of the composer William Alwyn. When, in 1997, Chandos Records brought out the first of two CDs of the music of Doreen Carwithen, younger listeners sat up with astonishment: the woman whose life seemed to have been devoted to easing that of her husband was revealed to be a substantial creative personality in her own right.

it is from the obituary in The Independent, the opening paragraph

[french frank]

In 2003 listeners were complaining about the introduction of the news headlines on the half hour. Most people would settle for 5 minutes on the hour but now we look back fondly on the time when it was every half hour.

This really is Radio 3 adopting a 'Breakfast Show' template, found throughout popular radio. When we respond to the Trust (pointing out that in examining how Radio 3 conformed to Classic FM it only considered aspects of the musical choices and completely ignored the offscourings in between) we shall repeat that all these are a problem.

[Was listening to CFM over lunch in the tratt. Remember someone ringing in with a request for a wedding anniversary ... A Mrs Trellis, I think - not sure where she said she was from ]

[Radio64]

Sorry, I know this isn't exactly a popular subject but the weekly Specialist Classical Chart podcast seems to have disappeared . . the webpage is 'empty' and apparently it's not showing up on UK i-tunes either.

Anyone help or know the reason why it isn't posted anymore?

I appreciate any answers, kindly or otherwise .. I shall then retreat back into my dark corner...

[Nick Armstrong]

Sorry, I know this isn't exactly a popular subject but the weekly Specialist Classical Chart podcast seems to have disappeared . . the webpage is 'empty' and apparently it's not showing up on UK i-tunes either.

Anyone help or know the reason why it isn't posted anymore?

I appreciate any answers, kindly or otherwise .. I shall then retreat back into my dark corner...

Yes I flagged that at #5167 above - perhaps the new broom has swept it away. After initial teething lunacy involving André Rieu, it was quite a good podcast for the car, used to listen to it for interesting new releases....

I won't miss it - there are other ways of keeping up without the clammy wet rock performances...

[Radio64]

Yes I flagged that at #5167 above - perhaps the new broom has swept it away. After initial teething lunacy involving André Rieu, it was quite a good podcast for the car, used to listen to it for interesting new releases....

I won't miss it - there are other ways of keeping up without the clammy wet rock performances...

Oh thanks Cals - hadn't seen your post. Indeed. I haven't actually been able to listen to the Friday programme this past couple of weeks so not sure if they've mentioned that there was anything untoward.

Shame. I'll miss it.

[Nick Armstrong]

Genisis

affithionathoes

thonk

I have the vague impression that I am reading this thread drunk.

I know, I know - I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

to attempt to catch the coat tails of your name dropping, find ourselves on the same floor as Mike Rutherford

I suppose to keep the flame alive I could confess to having played a gig (for charidee, it was) with Mr Rutherford along with Messrs Collins, Clapton, Starr and others inc. Gary Brooker, who co-wrote 'Whiter Shade of Pale'...

Actually: I've found the date - it was this gig http://www.whereseric.com/eric-clapton-tour/02/07/1988 (I am not named. I was lurking in the background with my trombone and other assorted amateur blowers and pluckers...)

And I've found that it's on video...!

Thanks for triggering these memories, antonio!

(NB: nor am I Chris Barber who totters on with his trombone at the end of that clip!)

[Old Grumpy]

I suppose to keep the flame alive I could confess to having played a gig (for charidee, it was) with Mr Rutherford along with Messrs Collins, Clapton, Starr and others inc. Gary Brooker, who co-wrote 'Whiter Shade of Pale'...

Actually: I've found the date - it was this gig http://www.whereseric.com/eric-clapton-tour/02/07/1988 (I am not named. I was lurking in the background with my trombone and other assorted amateur blowers and pluckers...)

And I've found that it's on video...!

Thanks for triggering these memories, antonio!

(NB: nor am I Chris Barber who totters on with his trombone at the end of that clip!)

Interesting clip - I initially thought there was a phantom bagpiper until I saw the soprano sax!

OG

[french frank]

I listened to yesterday's Breakfast (an anagram of Petroc Trelawny is Twylo Carpenter: nephew of Humphrey?).

As usual the music took up almost exactly two hours, the speech including news 30 minutes. That's as ever.

The trails - such as they were - seemed to come just before news breaks, which is good; one for a BBC Four quiz programme and the rest for Radio 3 programmes: DM for CotW, SK for In Tune, IS for EBU Day and, finally, the usual one for EC with Rob. Not a lot of change there

The news of some sort still every quarter hour but ... I did feel the other irrelevancies were less relentless and intrusive: a couple of email suggestions and low key invitations to tweet which didn't seem to have much response. No phone-in or wake-up call.

Not keen on five weather-themed pieces. As far as the playlist went: I know, I know, but I could have done wi'out the Herrmann film music and the Johann Strauss II (as mentioned, now miraculously changed from Johann Sebastian Strauss!). Although I admire Fl & Sw and think them funny, I'm not personally in the mood for them at Breakfast, nor the Irish jig, pace Jordi Savall's presence.

Other than that: Sweelinck, Carwithen and, I thought, the Malcolm Sargent were interesting; plus Zemlinsky (!), Senaillé and Gigout were pleasant enough. The Vivaldi and Mendelssohn were attractive and it was, on average, veering towards about as light as it need be, with four single movements (there have been more). My feeling was that Petroc (or Twylo, as I now think of him) made the Usual Format rather more tolerable than I've heard it in the past.

This type of programme will never be to my taste. If I'm going to listen to music for 45 minutes, I'd rather have a Beethoven string quartet and nothing else. I try to visualise a playlist which is (musically) coherent from beginning to end. But I suspect no one else would like that