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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Anyone watching Only Connect - many of our favourite announcers are a connecting wall!

    So they do have a use.
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    • Rolmill
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 634

      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Anyone watching Only Connect - many of our favourite announcers are a connecting wall!

      So they do have a use.
      Though no flicker of recognition for any of their names when VC read them out, after commenting "Presumably none of you listen to Radio 3". Inevitably, they were actually described as presenters rather than announcers...

      On the other hand, half an hour earlier a University Challenge contestant correctly (and with impressive speed) named Charpentier as the composer of an extract played - so perhaps all is not lost and R3's appeal to youth isn't a total failure.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30285

        Who were they? (Initials may suffice)
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12820

          Originally posted by Rolmill View Post

          On the other hand, half an hour earlier a University Challenge contestant correctly (and with impressive speed) named Charpentier as the composer of an extract played - so perhaps all is not lost and R3's appeal to youth isn't a total failure.
          ... ah, but which Charpentier were they being tested on?

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
            Though no flicker of recognition for any of their names when VC read them out, after commenting "Presumably none of you listen to Radio 3". Inevitably, they were actually described as presenters rather than announcers...
            Yes - I still instinctively think of them as "announcers".

            On the other hand, half an hour earlier a University Challenge contestant correctly (and with impressive speed) named Charpentier as the composer of an extract played - so perhaps all is not lost and R3's appeal to youth isn't a total failure.
            Yes - the lad's reaction when he heard the first few notes was one of recognition as if he'd performed or studied the work (AQA A2: Choral Music of the Baroque perhaps?) - his two teammates' simultaneous recognition of the closing lines of The Great Gatsby was identical in body language.
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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Who were they? (Initials may suffice)
              The words were "Burton-Hill" (the giveaway for me,) "Sweet", "Service", and "Berkeley" - with "Trelawney" as the red herring (that fitted in the Cornish Castles category).
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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... ah, but which Charpentier were they being tested on?
                The proper one!
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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30285

                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  The words were "Burton-Hill" (the giveaway for me,) "Sweet", "Service", and "Berkeley" - with "Trelawney" as the red herring (that fitted in the Cornish Castles category).
                  I'm afraid I'll need a bit more of a clue there, ferney. Was Penny Gore one of them?
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    I'm afraid I'll need a bit more of a clue there, ferney. Was Penny Gore one of them?
                    One of the rounds in Only Connect consists of sixteen seemingly-random words which the contestants have to put into four connected categories, which they then have to name. In tonight's round, "Sweet", "Service", "Berkeley", "Burton-Hill" and "Trelawney" (no forenames - that would make it too obvious) were scattered among eleven other words. If, like me, they recognised the names and could identify "Radio Three presenters" as the category, they might have missed out "Sweet" and included "Trelawney" (as I did ) and would have got it wrong.

                    If you want to sample the game (which you can do on your own, or with others) the online version (with instructions) is here:

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30285

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      If you want to sample the game (which you can do on your own, or with others) the online version (with instructions) is here:

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...8bpftq14k/quiz
                      Oh, noooo, I don't think I want to play that
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26535

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... ah, but which Charpentier were they being tested on?
                        Not Gus.

                        However they went on to get only 1/3 Te Deum composers right, and in another question, the composer of 'The Perfect Fool' eluded the same bright spark.
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          However they went on to get only 1/3 Te Deum composers right, and in another question, the composer of 'The Perfect Fool' eluded the same bright spark.
                          Yes - another Baroque composer (although a semi-guess) which is what made me wonder if he'd studied/sung in the Charpentier. (And a couple of near-misses: Smetana/Dvorak, Haydn/Mozart and RVW/Holst).
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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26535

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Yes - another Baroque composer (although a semi-guess) which is what made me wonder if he'd studied/sung in the Charpentier. (And a couple of near-misses: Smetana/Dvorak, Haydn/Mozart and RVW/Holst).
                            And another lad got the Mozart K191, didn't he, thanks to the 'Peter's grandfather' clue (not waiting for which cost t'other one a 5 point penalty... He should have known the clarinet concerto wasn't that early! )



                            Rather more 'classical' music now the questions are 'more difficult'?
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Penn Igor

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              I'm afraid I'll need a bit more of a clue there, ferney. Was Penny Gore one of them?
                              Did someone mention my name?

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30285

                                Originally posted by Penn Igor View Post
                                Did someone mention my name?
                                Light dawns? :-)
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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