The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[pastoralguy]

If I might be permitted to mention it for a third time :

Could we shut up about Clemency Burton-Hill - and that includes Radio64

Well I think she's rather sweet and I enjoy hearing her on my morning drive to my place of employment...

[Black Swan]

If I might be permitted to mention it for a third time :

Could we shut up about Clemency Burton-Hill - and that includes Radio64

To hear is to obey and I totally agree with FF.

[french frank]

This predates the forum, so possibly hasn't been noted here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnd5ilKx2Y

Well, it made me, erm, smile :-)

The disappointing thing is that it dates back to 2009 and still ...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

This predates the forum, so possibly hasn't been noted here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnd5ilKx2Y

Well, it made me, erm, smile :-)
The disappointing thing is that it dates back to 2009 and still ...

- and yet also

[french frank]

34 seconds in

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

34 seconds in

[kernelbogey]

I managed about twelve minutes of Breakfast today; of which the best seven were the music by Grillo (new to me). Apart from the news the rest of the guff was extraordinarily self-referential BBC promotion. It reminded me (although I rarely see television) of how presenters interview correspondents ('Yes, John, that's quite right and here in Damascus...'). The whole organisation is becoming increasingly self-obsessed.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

leaving the 'reckons' and 'personality' chat behind, what would a sequence from 6am to 12 Noon look like?

for me no news or weather; but some commentary and introductions to the pieces would be required as would regularity of features

oh and only complete pieces no parts and no presenters with 'personality voices' in fact none of the present team at all ...

[french frank]

leaving the 'reckons' and 'personality' chat behind, what would a sequence from 6am to 12 Noon look like?

Going back to the earliest complete schedule I have on the computer (and leaving aside content): there were three programmes, June 1997:

* The breakfast slot (6am to 9am)

* A one-hour programme with a selection of four (complete) works

* A two-hour programme (Musical Encounters) which may have had some sort of regular theme - I can't remember - judging by the title. This had 7 complete works, beginning with Mzt's Oboe concerto and ending with Strauss's ditto, both played by Leon Goossens.

12 noon: CotW was Dvořák, with Susan Sharpe.


As a structure, a 'breakfast slot' makes sense, and I have no problem with this containing shorter (tbd) pieces, as long as they are complete works in most cases, and aren't so short and so varied that there are all sorts of styles, colliding into each other every 4 minutes. This schedule only mentions 6 works, though this can't be the whole programme as the Tchaikovsky SQ No 1 doesn't last an hour.

It might be interesting to take a present Breakfast playlist, extending the incomplete bits and dropping other pieces as necessary.

I'm happy with short news breaks at, say, 6, 7 and 8 o'clock which would probably fit with most people's different getting-up times. Nothing on half hours, still less headlines on the quarter hour. No 'Reckons' from the public. If the Breakfast production staff are any good, they should be able to put a playlist together without suggestions from the public. And if the public do come up with good ideas, just choose them and play them - sending a kind email of appreciation rather than telling the entire audience who thought of it. Even if we know a Fred Smith, it's unlikely to be the same Fred Smith as the one who suggested the piece.

Again, as structure, I'd jettison the current 3-hour programme, especially as it can't even seem to fit in more than one full-length piece anyway. Divided in two seems fine with a coherent pattern to the programmes. Not the regular features like Essential Classics has. One programme could be the Artist of the Week, or recent releases, or something like that. The longer one could have longer works, only. And about time. Bach before 8, Best of British, Neglected Composers and Your Reckon are - for me - exactly the approach you DON'T want. Built in predictability.

I'd collect the 'trail' information all together, with the presenter reading out the details just before the hour (but not every hour).

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

[french frank]

Reminded a bit of WhatIReckon this morning with the explanation of what the Best of British Playlist is: we're compiling a list of 365 Great pieces of British music. 'What do we mean by 'Great'? Well, that's up to you. Email us and tell us ...'

"You may not KNOW anything about the subject, but I bet you RECKON something. Email us and tell us what you RECKON is a Great piece of British Music."

"And we have some emails here: Tom from Abingdon reckons the Benedictus from Karl Jenkins' The Armed Man; Stella from Abingdon reckons Tom has it about right; Jim from Abingdon agrees; Andrea emails 'Me too'; Floyd from Abingdon says 'Include me in', and we have 40 other emails from [....] all reckoning it's a Great Work. So Karl Jenkins enters the Best of British for the first time this week at number 275. James from Abingdon emails in to say his choir is performing Karl Jenkins' The Armed Man this weekened in Abingdon parish church ... ' "

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

yep rocked to the heels of my holy socks innit

[kernelbogey]

Reminded a bit of WhatIReckon this morning with the explanation of what the Best of British Playlist is: we're compiling a list of 365 Great pieces of British music. 'What do we mean by 'Great'? Well, that's up to you. Email us and tell us ...'

"You may not KNOW anything about the subject, but I bet you RECKON something. Email us and tell us what you RECKON is a Great piece of British Music."

"And we have some emails here: Tom from Abingdon reckons the Benedictus from Karl Jenkins' The Armed Man; Stella from Abingdon reckons Tom has it about right; Jim from Abingdon agrees; Andrea emails 'Me too'; Floyd from Abingdon says 'Include me in', and we have 40 other emails from [....] all reckoning it's a Great Work. So Karl Jenkins enters the Best of British for the first time this week at number 275. James from Abingdon emails in to say his choir is performing Karl Jenkins' The Armed Man this weekened in Abingdon parish church ... ' "

[Serial_Apologist]

Reminded a bit of WhatIReckon this morning with the explanation of what the Best of British Playlist is: we're compiling a list of 365 Great pieces of British music. 'What do we mean by 'Great'? Well, that's up to you. Email us and tell us ...'

"You may not KNOW anything about the subject, but I bet you RECKON something. Email us and tell us what you RECKON is a Great piece of British Music."

"And we have some emails here: Tom from Abingdon reckons the Benedictus from Karl Jenkins' The Armed Man; Stella from Abingdon reckons Tom has it about right; Jim from Abingdon agrees; Andrea emails 'Me too'; Floyd from Abingdon says 'Include me in', and we have 40 other emails from [....] all reckoning it's a Great Work. So Karl Jenkins enters the Best of British for the first time this week at number 275. James from Abingdon emails in to say his choir is performing Karl Jenkins' The Armed Man this weekened in Abingdon parish church ... ' "

I don't RECKON you made all this up, ff!

[french frank]

I don't RECKON you made all this up, ff!

You've had a listen, haven't you S_A?

I remember when I acted as Prompt for a local production of Princess Ida. I read Tennyson's The Princess and was astonished to find how closely it resembled the satire, so that you could hardly read it without feeling it was intentionally a self parody.