The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[french frank]

innit

A threatened species and a wobbling edifice?

[Radio64]

Cod o'clock?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Her voice is increasingly annoying (or is it just me?).

She manages to lisp on every 't' ath well ath every 's' ...

Maybe it's an impediment in which case I'm very sorry, but to me it sounds like affectation...

I don't think it can be an impediment, as it was never noticeable before. Like the affected "u"/"oo" referred to in Pronunciation Watch, it has all the hallmarks of trying to sound cute. CB-H is after all an actress.

[muzzer]

I don't think it can be an impediment, as it was never noticeable before. Like the affected "u"/"oo" referred to in Pronunciation Watch, it has all the hallmarks of trying to sound cute. CB-H is after all an actress.

Yes I find it difficult not to shout at the radio sometimes. She trips over her words and if she has to depart from the script gets verbose very quickly. There was a heinous example this morning I've already blocked out. I reproach myself for getting so annoyed by a radio presenter ofc. I mean, come on, does it really matter? ;)

[HARRIET HAVARD]

I don't think it can be an impediment, as it was never noticeable before. Like the affected "u"/"oo" referred to in Pronunciation Watch, it has all the hallmarks of trying to sound cute. CB-H is after all an actress.

CB-H is ONLY an actress. That's the problem. On paper she may have an academic musical background, but, as is obvious she has little in depth musical knowledge: something that is obvious will all the current crop of presenters. This wouldn't matter if they were just there to present the programme, and the content was left to more competent backroom staff. Unfortunately the problem with this show- and with R3 in general now- doesn't end with the limited range of pieces played. I am sure there have been comments on this forum about performances- but, must admit I have seen very little here.

What I have increasingly noticed- especially with Breakfast and EC- is not only is much of that played no more than "light" music, but many of the performances are truly awful. Yet invariably they are described as "wonderful", "marvellous", "fantastic.....I can only conclude that, in the absence of any musical appreciation, the presenters/production staff are choosing performances merely on the basis of "celebrity", or chart popularity.

[Radio64]

CB-H is ONLY an actress. That's the problem. On paper she may have an academic musical background, but, as is obvious she has little in depth musical knowledge....

Oh! Sweeping statements! ..and what do you mean she is only an actress? It would seem that she is also a regular presenter on BBC Radio 3. Oh and she's written a couple of novels, I believe.

On with the show...

[Stanfordian]

CB-H is ONLY an actress. That's the problem. On paper she may have an academic musical background, but, as is obvious she has little in depth musical knowledge: something that is obvious will all the current crop of presenters. This wouldn't matter if they were just there to present the programme, and the content was left to more competent backroom staff. Unfortunately the problem with this show- and with R3 in general now- doesn't end with the limited range of pieces played. I am sure there have been comments on this forum about performances- but, must admit I have seen very little here.

What I have increasingly noticed- especially with Breakfast and EC- is not only is much of that played no more than "light" music, but many of the performances are truly awful. Yet invariably they are described as "wonderful", "marvellous", "fantastic.....I can only conclude that, in the absence of any musical appreciation, the presenters/production staff are choosing performances merely on the basis of "celebrity", or chart popularity.

Hiya HARRIET HAVARD,

Welcome to the court of Clemency Burton-Hill

Actress CB-H is clearly not used on the BBC for her music knowledge is she. If CB-H didn't have stunning looks and a famous father and other impressive connections I don't think we would be see her (or even hear her) on the BBC at all.

Here is an interesting link titled: 'Radio presenter, novelist, musician and actress... welcome to the court of Clemency Burton-Hill':

http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/radio-presenter-novelist-musician-and-actress-welcome-to-the-court-of-clemency-burtonhill-9594063.html

[muzzer]

That journo doesn't buy it really does he? Well, as I've said before, I don't know where she gets the energy. Good for her.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It's interesting how celebrities in one field can cross into another one simply because the public knows them. Alan Titchmarsh does great gardening programmes, yet he writes novels which people actually buy and has presented Proms for Radio 3. Meanwhile, people who could write far superior novels and would introduce Proms with real expertise, aren't even on the map for consideration.

It's a bit like the Mafia.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

A threatened species and a wobbling edifice?

mockney innit

[french frank]

mockney innit

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Actress CB-H is clearly not used on the BBC for her music knowledge is she.

Well, she wrote and presented an excellent documentary on Stradivarius on BBC4 about a year ago, in which she revealed not merely first-rate research and presentation skills (which would wipe the floor with Mrs Trellis) but also better skills at playing the Violin than most of her critics on this Forum (she duetted with Jennifer Pyke - and it was only by looking that the viewer could tell which was the professional solo Violinist and which the "actress").

Nor, for that matter, am I aware of the BBC ever using her as an actress (she was in a Midsomer Murder some years ago, but that's an ITV production).

It is, I fear, sadly another case (like that of Sara Mohr-Pietsche) of an intelligent and gifted young woman being told to ditsy-it-up for the sake of the low intelligence that the Beeb seems to think is typical of the Breakfast audience.

[Radio64]

hear hear! ..

..and I totally agree with the use of the word ditsy .. (had to look it up)

[Ockeghem's Razor]

It is, I fear, sadly another case (like that of Sara Mohr-Pietsche) of an intelligent and gifted young woman being told to ditsy-it-up for the sake of the low intelligence that the Beeb seems to think is typical of the Breakfast audience.

Tu parles, Charles.

[HARRIET HAVARD]

Oh! Sweeping statements! ..and what do you mean she is only an actress? It would seem that she is also a regular presenter on BBC Radio 3. Oh and she's written a couple of novels, I believe.

On with the show...

So she has written a couple of novels....Who these days hasn't!