Glad to read there's been lots of healthy Breakfast-grumping going on in my absence!
The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostI'm willing to bet he hasn't stopped grumping!It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Radio64 View PostPerhaps both definitions are valid here, to a certain extent.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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today's Best of British George Lloyd because Trelawn had "received a lot of grief" for not having included him thus far - but in the interests of balance, by the end of the piece [Symphony 6/iii], someone had tweeted that Lloyd (and Bantock) were quite justifiably neglected. Plus emails from people complaining about Proms trailers.
I was just wondering if there is some condition of the licence agreement* that the BBC not only provides contact addresses/phone numbers for feedback on its programmes but that that feedback should be regularly made public. I mean Points Of View has been a very long-running TV programme of viewer feedback - people have presumably been writing to the BBC from its very inception with their comments positive and negative. If the Beeb didn't want to receive comments it would be easy enough for them to close down all points of contact. But are they required 'by law' to provide easy contact ?
..... and having asked for feedback, or been obliged to ask for feedback, what to do with it ...... other than file it or read it out on air ?
* perhaps I don't mean licence agreement but charter or covenant or one of those wordsLast edited by mercia; 29-07-14, 11:16.
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Originally posted by mercia View Posttoday's Best of British George Lloyd because Trelawn had "received a lot of grief" for not having included him thus far - but in the interests of balance, by the end of the piece [Symphony 6/iii], someone had tweeted that Lloyd (and Bantock) were quite justifiably neglected. Plus emails from people complaining about Proms trailers.
I was just wondering if there is some condition of the licence agreement that the BBC not only provides contact addresses/phone numbers for feedback on its programmes but that that feedback should be regularly made public. I mean Points Of View has been a very long-running TV programme of viewer feedback - people have presumably been writing to the BBC from its very inception with their comments positive and negative. If the Beeb didn't want to receive comments it would be easy enough for them to close down all points of contact. But are they required 'by law' to provide easy contact ?
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Originally posted by Padraig View Post'Grumping' sounds quite woolly and friendly and without malice to my ear; what I hear in this thread is more like 'sniding', a cold carping bite with evil intent.
Management is responsible for engaging them and - it seems to me - producers have a 'duty of care' to ensure that nothing too awful is said, and that all information that should be given is included in the running order. I didn't think this was 'too awful', other than in displaying a poor knowledge of how to pronounce anything 'foreign' (Latin, French, Spanish) and an 'over-carefulness' at times. It's a bit of a tall order to expect anyone thrown in at the deep end to sound as if it's all familiar to them.
I can only suppose that the more experienced Radio 3 presenters don't want to work unsocial hours in Salford, and certainly not at week-ends: John Shea, Paul Guinery, Catriona Young, Louise Fryer, Penny Gore. Ian Skelly has been a good 'back-up', but from his BBC bio he seems to be first and foremost a writer. I don't think a stream of BBC radio presenters, bussed in from various other stations to help out as and when, shows much of a sense that good music presenting matters much on Radio 3; or that a knowledge of classical music is more than a desirable add-on.
[Ed: This has been a long time a-coming - will consider mercs's points too ]It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostI can only suppose that the more experienced Radio 3 presenters don't want to work unsocial hours in Salford, and certainly not at week-ends: John Shea, Paul Guinery, Catriona Young, Louise Fryer, Penny Gore. Ian Skelly has been a good 'back-up', but from his BBC bio he seems to be first and foremost a writer. I don't think a stream of BBC radio presenters, bussed in from various other stations to help out as and when, shows much of a sense that good music presenting matters much on Radio 3; or that a knowledge of classical music is more than a desirable add-on.O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!
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Originally posted by antongould View PostYes I heard that mercs and the very same thought crossed my mind.....I couldn't understand why TreeLawn had read the anti-Lloyd response out in such a rush.....
Ditto here. Would he have done the same if someone had tweeted in after a Benjamin Briitten piece had been played to say that they didn't like BB's style and much preferred George Lloyd?
Very odd.O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!
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