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  • HARRIET HAVARD

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    I slept through Breakfast this morning, but a friend, staying with us at present, has just remarked that the presenter was so intense in her gasping for breath, that she needs anxiety counselling. I told her not to worry, as this does not appear to be a problem for this presenter, as all the Radio 3 a.m. presenters are evidently taught to do it.

    But it was interesting hear this comment from an unbiased neutral.
    CBH is renown for her big breths...Which probably explains how she got the job.

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8785

      Young lady presenting Breakfast for the last two mornings - nice picture of her waiting to give Mr. Cameron some daffs on the website. Can't be whatevered to look back and see if she has been mentioned hereabouts before. Seemed quite pleasant as I chased the grandchildren around .....only 3 pieces in the first half hour of Saturday including John Field. Ended her stint on an appropriate bit of Keith Jarrett....so possibly not all bad?

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30302

        Originally posted by antongould View Post
        Young lady presenting Breakfast for the last two mornings - nice picture of her waiting to give Mr. Cameron some daffs on the website. Can't be whatevered to look back and see if she has been mentioned hereabouts before. Seemed quite pleasant as I chased the grandchildren around .....only 3 pieces in the first half hour of Saturday including John Field. Ended her stint on an appropriate bit of Keith Jarrett....so possibly not all bad?
        Just been emailed about her - Victoria Meakin from (sometimes) Radio 5 Live. Could illustrate the point that you don't absolutely have to be a professional musician/musicologist (nor an actress, novelist, political commentator!) in order to be a perfectly competent Breakfast presenter. Just careful preparation ...
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          But any of the BBC regulars and thousands of others who no-one has yet heard of could present Breakfast. That isn't the issue. The "careful preparation" is:

          1. Repeat your name every 5 minutes.
          2. Ask for texts and tweets; if you don't get any, make a few up.
          3. Smarm over the listeners throughout.
          4. Start speaking as soon as the music stops (or even earlier) and don't stop to take a breath (except in midsentence) as the listeners are hanging on to your every word and will switch off if there is anything resembling silence.
          5. Choose your music carefully by checking that all the pieces of background music played between your important chatter would fit on one side of a 78 rpm disc.
          6. Keep a musical balance - i.e. nothing more recent than "The Lark Ascending".
          7. Ensure your grammatical howlers will pass unnoticed by speaking them with a posh accent.
          8. Thank the listeners for their company, even though they you don't know who they are and (like my cat) don't really care whether you live or die.
          9. Practise passing the baton to the Essential Classics, again ensuring there is no sound gap of any kind, just to ensure that listeners will not switch off or retune to something requiring more advanced utilisation of the brain.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30302

            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            5. Choose your music carefully by checking that ...
            I thought you were going to say, 'that it has already been played once this week'. Someone is grumping on Facebook that as R3 is the 'culture station' why do some presenters struggle to pronounce French, German and Italian titles ...
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • amateur51

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              I thought you were going to say, 'that it has already been played once this week'. Someone is grumping on Facebook that as R3 is the 'culture station' why do some presenters struggle to pronounce French, German and Italian titles ...
              Grumping?

              Anything like twerking?

              I think we should be told!

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37696

                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                Grumping?

                Anything like twerking?

                I think we should be told!
                I think you're getting mixed up with "humping", Ams!

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30302

                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  Grumping?
                  [...]
                  I think we should be told!
                  Being grumpy.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    I like the word " grumping".

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                    • underthecountertenor
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1584

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Just been emailed about her - Victoria Meakin from (sometimes) Radio 5 Live. Could illustrate the point that you don't absolutely have to be a professional musician/musicologist (nor an actress, novelist, political commentator!) in order to be a perfectly competent Breakfast presenter. Just careful preparation ...
                      Well, since you mention it, what I heard of her was perfectly incompetent and completely unprepared. I've just dipped into this morning's programme to see if there was a tribute to Carlo Bergonzi. There sort of was, but she made a hash of it, not mentioning the aria played (Celeste Aida), or the orchestra or conductor, and generally giving the impression that she had no idea who Bergonzi was. Later on, she managed to make a complete mess of pronouncing the Missa Iam Christus Astra Ascenderat, saying 'I am' instead of iam both before and after it was played (no one on hand to correct her, evidently). She clearly felt much more at home reading out emails about walking down the aisle to Widor's toccata etc etc. Reinforcing the general impression that, in the absence of Martin H, they'll chuck anyone on of a weekend.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30302

                        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                        Well, since you mention it, what I heard of her was perfectly incompetent and completely unprepared. I've just dipped into this morning's programme to see if there was a tribute to Carlo Bergonzi. There sort of was, but she made a hash of it, not mentioning the aria played (Celeste Aida), or the orchestra or conductor, and generally giving the impression that she had no idea who Bergonzi was. Later on, she managed to make a complete mess of pronouncing the Missa Iam Christus Astra Ascenderat, saying 'I am' instead of iam both before and after it was played (no one on hand to correct her, evidently). She clearly felt much more at home reading out emails about walking down the aisle to Widor's toccata etc etc. Reinforcing the general impression that, in the absence of Martin H, they'll chuck anyone on of a weekend.
                        I will listen ... Though I can see from the playlist that Carlo Bergonzi performed the whole of Aida entirely alone, all four acts - it took 5 minutes.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • underthecountertenor
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1584

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          I will listen ... Though I can see from the playlist that Carlo Bergonzi performed the whole of Aida entirely alone, all four acts - it took 5 minutes.
                          Such versatility! Such speed!
                          PT is doing Bergonzi much greater justice this morning.

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                            ...she managed to make a complete mess of pronouncing the Missa Iam Christus Astra Ascenderat, saying 'I am' instead of iam both before and after it was played...
                            Yes, that was pretty excruciating, but an easy mistake to make if you're reading a printed text and don't know Latin.

                            (I've given up commenting on the young gentlemen who offer strange pronunciations of Latin in the course of Choral Evensong - even sometimes from the pulpit!)

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                            • amateur51

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              Being grumpy.
                              I wonder if scotty is making a note in his beloved dictionary

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37696

                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                I wonder if scotty is making a note in his beloved dictionary
                                I'm willing to bet he hasn't stopped grumping!

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