The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post... I would argue against this in other cases (1812 and the finale of Symphony no. 4) where the structure justifies it.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostSorry? I need clarification here: you appear to be suggesting that "noise distract[ing] from the fact that nothing of value is being said" is "justified" by "the structure". Doesn't this imply that "the structure" is a shoddy mess to begin with?
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostYou've been reading too many books by 1950s' critics.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostNo; it was a genuine question (possibly needing a separate thread) and as a general point, not necessarily directed at Tchaikovsky. (The only books by 1950s' Critics I possess are Penguins - Eric Blom, Ralph Hill, Arthur Jacob and others.)
In fact should this entertaining Tchaik exchange be moved there? Pity to let it languish in the Breakfast thread (where it shouldn't have been in the first place! )"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Radio64 View PostSlightly OT but I heard by chance a bit of Classic FM this morning and the bloke was asking people to text in at 6.15 AM (UK time) to let him know why they were up so early !
Now that is daft ....I have a medical condition- I am fool intolerant.
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostRadio 3 hasn't quite sunk to this yet, but that's the way the management is pushing it.
Why?
Is it because they really believe there's no alternative?
You can see why I prefer discussions about the merits of various composers, can't you![FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by Radio64 View PostSlightly OT but I heard by chance a bit of Classic FM this morning and the bloke was asking people to text in at 6.15 AM (UK time) to let him know why they were up so early !
Now that is daft ....
OG
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... just reading James Agate's 'Ego' vol 6 - a quote from William Glock in 'The Observer' for 4 July 1943 :
"Innumerable performances of Tschaikowsky's piano concerto fail to yield the elementary lesson that such music should be abandoned."
Sunday 15 August 1943
"... Clifford Curzon in the Grieg, of which, Nature exercising its sway, I heard only the first ten bars and the last. Woke up in time for Tschaikowsky's Francesca da Rimini - one of the rowdiest and emptiest display pieces in all music. It is worse than Liszt's bosh on the same subject... "
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... just reading James Agate's 'Ego' vol 6 - a quote from William Glock in 'The Observer' for 4 July 1943 :
"Innumerable performances of Tschaikowsky's piano concerto fail to yield the elementary lesson that such music should be abandoned."
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My memory is (and I've just checked some news items on the FoR3 archive) that Breakfast started in February 2007. But there's nothing before July 2007 because that's as far back as the BBC online archive goes. Check In Tune as well.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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