The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Richard Tarleton
Originally posted by Caliban View Post
One of my blackest of bêtes noires...
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostJust have to vent this somewhere - is there no end to Tchaikovsky's banality? Having sat through the ruddy piano concerto, on Saturday, this Capriccio Italien is an incredible load of old rubbish!!
Even Simon Rattle relented and recorded The Nutcracker.
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostI must disagree with all the Tchaikovsky bashing. Leave that to Pierre Boulez, who ought to know better, and university lecturers from the 1960s.
Even Simon Rattle relented and recorded The Nutcracker.
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Richard Tarleton
I love Tchaikovsky I just think it's possible to go through life without hearing 1812 or MS again! After hearing Gilels give a definitive performance of PC1 in 1972 (LSO/Svetlanov) I've never sought out another performance of that, happy just to live with the memory (don't own a CD either). But the symphonies, ballets, chamber music.... : I love the Children's Album for solo piano, which I've never heard on R3.
It's Rachmaninov I have problems with . But that's another story.
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostWas Hopalong Cassidy really Billy the Kid?
Did you hear that R64? Probably not, come to think of it, since it was not the presenter of your dreams this AM."Gone Chopin, Bach in a minuet."
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostI must disagree with all the Tchaikovsky bashing. Leave that to Pierre Boulez, who ought to know better, and university lecturers from the 1960s.
Even Simon Rattle relented and recorded The Nutcracker.
Anyway, sadly I can't leave it to Boulez and those other folk. I fear it will remain my opinion. Mravinsky in the last 3 Symphonies - ok... and then, basta!!"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Just (mostly) teasing! There is so much Music by Tchaikovsky that I enjoy - yes, especially those Mravinsky Symphony recordings, but also the delightful Winter Daydreams, the Manfred, the Souvenir du Florence, and the wit and infectious invention he often displays in the ballet Music. But then there's all the other stuff; the noisey, repetitive, tub-thumping stuff which remind me of nothing so much as those bad teachers whose inabilitiy to communicate and plan lessons leaves them with no option but to spend their lessons shouting at the kids in the hope that all the noise will distract from the fact that nothing of value is actually being said - and it's not being said badly.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post... is remembered for so many great mistakes!
Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post(mostly) teasing! There is so much Music by Tchaikovsky that I enjoy - yes, especially those Mravinsky Symphony recordings, but also the delightful Winter Daydreams, the Manfred, the Souvenir du Florence, and the wit and infectious invention he often displays in the ballet Music. But then there's all the other stuff; the noisey, repetitive, tub-thumping stuff which remind me of nothing so much as those bad teachers whose inabilitiy to communicate and plan lessons leaves them with no option but to spend their lessons shouting at the kids in the hope that all the noise will distract from the fact that nothing of value is actually being said - and it's not being said badly.
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