The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Honoured Guest]

Should JEG have been permitted to make an appearance at the Hay Festival if Ena had too much of a life to attend the event?

[Nick Armstrong]

Just have to vent this somewhere - is there no end to Tchaikovsky's banality? Having sat through the ruddy piano concerto, on Saturday, this Capriccio Italien is an incredible load of old rubbish!!

[Bryn]

Just have to vent this somewhere - is there no end to Tchaikovsky's banality? Having sat through the ruddy piano concerto... !

Which of the three is the ruddy one? I didn't even know he swung to the left.

[underthecountertenor]

Oh, I see. I thought that as it was on the Breakfast thread, it was yet another of those chat interludes. I stand corrected.

Pas de prob!

[cloughie]

Just have to vent this somewhere - is there no end to Tchaikovsky's banality? Having sat through the ruddy piano concerto, on Saturday, this Capriccio Italien is an incredible load of old rubbish!!

You cheerless individual, Cali - Capriccio Italien is a bright uplifting piece - try the Kondrashin or Alwyn recordings and then smile

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

... this Capriccio Italien is an incredible load of old rubbish!!

- not one of Peter Illych's best moments, is it? (If you're going to repeat a tune eighty times, each time louder, you should at least pick a decent tune!) The Souvenir de Florence is a much better listen.



Which reminds me: has anyone mentioned The Magic Roundabout on the "Nostalgic Kids' TV Themes" Thread?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

You cheerless individual, Cali - Capriccio Italien is a bright uplifting piece - try the Kondrashin or Alwyn recordings and then smile

"Smile"?! It positively has me in stitches!

[french frank]

Was it the version by Geraldo and his Orchestra??

[Nick Armstrong]

Much more of a chance of a smile from recent responses to my outburst, than from Capriccio Italien, I think!

I realise I should have posted on Essential Classics (ironically)... but this'll have to do ("in a new place")

[cloughie]

Much more of a chance of a smile from recent responses to my outburst, than from Capriccio Italien, I think!

I realise I should have posted on Essential Classics (ironically)... but this'll have to do ("in a new place")

I see it was the Alwyn recording - then there's no hope for you cali. Maybe you have an Illych by-pass -try Stoki's Francesca and if that doesn't light your candle from the flames of the inferno....

[vinteuil]

Just have to vent this somewhere - is there no end to Tchaikovsky's banality? Having sat through the ruddy piano concerto, on Saturday...

... just reading James Agate's 'Ego' vol 6 - a quote from William Glock in 'The Observer' for 4 July 1943 :

"Innumerable performances of Tschaikowsky's piano concerto fail to yield the elementary lesson that such music should be abandoned."

[teamsaint]

Much more of a chance of a smile from recent responses to my outburst, than from Capriccio Italien, I think!

I realise I should have posted on Essential Classics (ironically)... but this'll have to do ("in a new place")

Good to hear the sound of venting accompanying the early summer bird song.OldTchaik really does seem to be more "on or off" than other greats. Totally agree about the CI, , the PCs are mixed at best, and the VC......

And if the rococo variations had any redeeming qualities,they have long since passed on, pinned forever on a BBC turntable, or with a CFM stylus delivering the coup de grace.


But the good stuff .......genius.

[cloughie]

Good to hear the sound of venting accompanying the early summer bird song.OldTchaik really does seem to be more "on or off" than other greats. Totally agree about the CI, , the PCs are mixed at best, and the VC......

And if the rococo variations had any redeeming qualities,they have long since passed on, pinned forever on a BBC turntable, or with a CFM stylus delivering the coup de grace.


But the good stuff .......genius.

CI is really good in the right hands and maybe a warhorse that has been stuffed with too much breakfast. The 2nd movement of PC2 is sheer beauty, I have definite soft spot for the serenade for strings and I was won over to Marche Slave by Stoki's approach to it many years ago.

[antongould]

Just have to vent this somewhere - is there no end to Tchaikovsky's banality? Having sat through the ruddy piano concerto, on Saturday, this Capriccio Italien is an incredible load of old rubbish!!

You have got up too early again.....

[french frank]

I have definite soft spot for the serenade for strings

Me too. Some friends gave my parents a 12" shellac record. As it was the only record they possessed, it was kept on the radiogram turntable. Not sure that they ever played it, but I did (aged about 9), now and again.

[Actually, it was just the Waltz, I think with the Valse des fleurs on the other side.]