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  • Northender

    Is '3Breakfast' broadcast from Salford? If so, is it possible that Mr. Hoban was drafted in to fill a gap in the roster that arose from somebody or other's unwillingness to make the trip to the North West?

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      Originally posted by Northender View Post
      Is '3Breakfast' broadcast from Salford? If so, is it possible that Mr. Hoban was drafted in to fill a gap in the roster that arose from somebody or other's unwillingness to make the trip to the North West?
      Yes, it does come from Salford now - and that thought occurred to me. Weekends regularly spent away from home could be a drag with that amount of spare time to fill later in the day.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        I see that Sean (Shaun ?) Keaveney is only on 3 hours a day, presumably the rest of the day is an intellectual paradise on Radio 6

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        • Bax-of-Delights
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 745

          Originally posted by Northender View Post
          Is '3Breakfast' broadcast from Salford? If so, is it possible that Mr. Hoban was drafted in to fill a gap in the roster that arose from somebody or other's unwillingness to make the trip to the North West?
          I bought up this query some time ago. Martin Handley hails from Kent and so one presumes he has to travel up to Salford on a Friday evening, be hostelried for 2 nights in a suitable Salford Mansion and then potter back to Kent on Sunday afternoon. If there is a Handley-partner I would assume they might be a little ticked off with the unnecessary travelling (not to mention the additional expense to the R3 budget) and his absence for such a long period. Surely, with modern technology, all this could be done from the comfort of his own home?
          O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26573

            Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
            I bought up this query some time ago. Martin Handley hails from Kent and so one presumes he has to travel up to Salford on a Friday evening, be hostelried for 2 nights in a suitable Salford Mansion and then potter back to Kent on Sunday afternoon. If there is a Handley-partner I would assume they might be a little ticked off with the unnecessary travelling (not to mention the additional expense to the R3 budget) and his absence for such a long period. Surely, with modern technology, all this could be done from the comfort of his own home?
            Quite!

            MH's description of himself on his Twitter page reads:
            "R3 presenter, musician, actor, Oxford United fan, husband, dad, stepdad, attempting to muddle through life as a decent human being... the views I express are just mine..."
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Bax-of-Delights
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 745

              In that case Caliban it just seems totally perverse to drag the poor devil all the way up to Salford - 48 hours and at how much cost? - for just 6 hours broadcasting.
              O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                I bought up this query some time ago. Martin Handley hails from Kent and so one presumes he has to travel up to Salford on a Friday evening, be hostelried for 2 nights in a suitable Salford Mansion and then potter back to Kent on Sunday afternoon. If there is a Handley-partner I would assume they might be a little ticked off with the unnecessary travelling (not to mention the additional expense to the R3 budget) and his absence for such a long period. Surely, with modern technology, all this could be done from the comfort of his own home?
                I must sday i much prefer MH to that presenter on whenerver it was and saying some ravishing Bach? Much that I love and admire JSB's music, I wouldnt say ravishing!?!?
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30456

                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  I see that Sean (Shaun ?) Keaveney is only on 3 hours a day, presumably the rest of the day is an intellectual paradise on Radio 6
                  He happens to be the breakfast presenter and I think the objection was to the relentlessly cheery style of breakfast presenters - even on the station he would like to be listening to (because that's peak time for all radio listening anyway - which is presumably why LCD is the aim on most breakfast shows: peaktime and biggest potential audience).

                  Yes, Shaun. But Keaveny, without the third e. Popularised the notion of 'earworms' on his show before it was introduced to Breakfast by SMP.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26573

                    Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                    In that case Caliban it just seems totally perverse to drag the poor devil all the way up to Salford - 48 hours and at how much cost? - for just 6 hours broadcasting.
                    I know what you mean but maybe he likes the break...!?
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                      Much that I love and admire JSB's music, I wouldnt say ravishing!?!?
                      Brace yourself, Mabel:

                      Concerto for Two Violins in D minor, BWV 1043I. VivaceII. Largo ma non tantoIII. AllegroComposer: Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)Performers: Yehudi Menuhin...
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30456

                        Sony Radio Awards tonight - will Breakfast win the top breakfast show award? Last quarter Chris Evans notched up 9.5m listeners and Today got 7.1m, both just short of their highest ever. Breakfast OTOH seems to be on a downward trend - so what qualities does it have that might nevertheless let it scoop the prize? How will the judges describe it? - bright, refreshing, varied, fun?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163



                          Bach Goldberg Variations, Var. 25Stefan Abels, pianoCD 2008www.stefanabels.de


                          Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)Johannes PassionAria "Zerfließe, mein Herze"Tessa Bonner, sopranoTaverner PlayersAndrew Parrott


                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30456

                            Well, here it is:

                            What the Judges Said

                            "This is a joy to listen to. Radio 3 has made considerable changes to its breakfast show turning it into an accessible, warm, and stimulating start the day, in the teeth of opposition from some traditionalists.

                            No longer is classical music handed out. Now listeners are asked for their suggestions, introduce them, and talk about discoveries and musical passions. Presenters Petroc Trewlawny and Sara Mohr-Pietsch are well matched friendly experts, always encouraging."

                            Sadly, it didn't win any award. It simply goes to show the distance between the general public - to which, in this case, the judges clearly belong - and those who care about classical music. OTOH, not winning an award suggests it's not as bad as all that... (The judges are always fulsome in their praise for all the nominees, btw).

                            NB Today won the gold (but it's hardly the same kind of programme)
                            Christian O'Connell (Absolute) won silver
                            Chris Evans won Bronze

                            My guess is that there was a certain amount of kite-flying in nominating Breakfast: if it won anything it would be one ine the eye for the whingers aka traditionalists.

                            [Another interesting linguistic point: the amount of disapproval and scorn that can now be implied by the word 'traditionalist' as a general term of abuse, and regardless of whether the users understand the issues they're talking about!]
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Anna

                              As an add-on to the above re Sony Awards, and although she does R4 as well as R3, Suzy Klein won Silver in the Music on Radio Broadcaster of the Year.
                              What the Judges said - "A brilliant, clear and fresh voice. Suzy brings her knowledge and enthusiasm to bare in a modern, accessible and friendly way. She's positive, forward looking and fun. She added an authoritative but welcoming voice to the range of programmes she appeared on. She's a major name for the future"

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Today won the gold (but it's hardly the same kind of programme)
                                yes, there obviously aren't enough award categories - it should be more like the TV Soap awards where there are so many categories everyone becomes a winner

                                I suggest Best Classical Music Breakfast Programme with a Cornish presenter award
                                Best Classical Music Breakfast Programme with a female presenter [double-barrelled surnames only]
                                etc.

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