The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Suffolkcoastal]

Tempting Anton, but I bet by sods law, they'll actually play some Rubbra or Piston and I'll have missed it.

The playlists are still incomplete, 9 items in two hours on Breakfast? Oh dear looks like I'll have to brave both programmes!

[french frank]

why not follow the current methodology of UK commerce - when you have no data use data that suits your argument. - so fill it with the usual suspects......

Like Dvořák's Slavonic Dances? Arranged for piano duet - just over an hour in this morning.

Plus West Side Story, Ruslan and Ludmila, Chabrier's España, Padstow Lifeboat ...

[teamsaint]

The content of large swathes of the R3 schedules are very annoying.
Amateurish presentation, missing online playlists, poor research are absolutely inexcuseable.
If they can't do these things correctly. there are plenty of keen kids out there more than capable of doing this stuff well, and on modest wages.
I've probably missed the point there, but never mind.

[teamsaint]

Like Dvořák's Slavonic Dances? Arranged for piano duet - just over an hour in this morning

Rob Cowan Started "Sunday" with a Hungarian Dance.

No doubt there was some interesting stuff, but my 2 and a half hour drive gave me time to catch up on some really interesting music.
Silver linings etc....

[antongould]

Like Dvořák's Slavonic Dances? Arranged for piano duet - just over an hour in this morning.

Plus West Side Story, Ruslan and Ludmila, Chabrier's España, Padstow Lifeboat ...

They play Ruslan and Ludmila for salymap and I hope you like others are texting sea music for a pin or some such....the nearly Paul Mcartney yesterday and John Ireland today - so I presume that is where the RNLI came from....

[Suffolkcoastal]

The content of large swathes of the R3 schedules are very annoying.
Amateurish presentation, missing online playlists, poor research are absolutely inexcuseable.
If they can't do these things correctly. there are plenty of keen kids out there more than capable of doing this stuff well, and on modest wages.
I've probably missed the point there, but never mind.

I'm not sure what they pay but anything over about £28-30k (minumum needed to live near London) and they'd at least have a website that is up to date and someone who genuinely really cares about classical music to undertake the research to make it as accurate as possible and have pride in doing so. Plus someone to put together and suggest interesting, balanced and varied programming. I've got about 20 years till I retire, so I've got plenty of time left. I'm sure the talents and knowledge of other MB users should be used as much as possible too, all to R3s advantage.

[EdgeleyRob]

Tempting Anton, but I bet by sods law, they'll actually play some Rubbra or Piston and I'll have missed it.

The playlists are still incomplete, 9 items in two hours on Breakfast? Oh dear looks like I'll have to brave both programmes!

[teamsaint]

I'm not sure what they pay but anything over about £28-30k (minumum needed to live near London) and they'd at least have a website that is up to date and someone who genuinely really cares about classical music to undertake the research to make it as accurate as possible and have pride in doing so. Plus someone to put together and suggest interesting, balanced and varied programming. I've got about 20 years till I retire, so I've got plenty of time left. I'm sure the talents and knowledge of other MB users should be used as much as possible too, all to R3s advantage.

If only......
Time to set up that internet radio station !

[french frank]

If he doesn't reappear it might be because, as a guitarist, he was encouraging listeners to say what pieces of guitar music they wanted to hear, that there wasn't enough guitar music on Radio 3, he had two pieces (not listed?) played by Segovia (Albéniz and Bach??), did listeners have memories/opinions of Segovia &c.?

RW famously dislikes guitar music ...

On Saturday one sea piece was La Mer... sung by Charles Trenet . There was also something by Grieg (not listed). I think.

Tempting Anton, but I bet by sods law, they'll actually play some Rubbra or Piston and I'll have missed it.

The playlists are still incomplete, 9 items in two hours on Breakfast? Oh dear looks like I'll have to brave both programmes!

[antongould]

I'm not sure what they pay but anything over about £28-30k (minumum needed to live near London) and they'd at least have a website that is up to date and someone who genuinely really cares about classical music to undertake the research to make it as accurate as possible and have pride in doing so. Plus someone to put together and suggest interesting, balanced and varied programming. I've got about 20 years till I retire, so I've got plenty of time left. I'm sure the talents and knowledge of other MB users should be used as much as possible too, all to R3s advantage.

That would be wonderful and sensible SC but I have 1 year until I retire and I have seen in my working life a move from staffing most/all organizations in the manner you advocate to, as a pretty general norm, management who know no detail, and the workplace overtaken by some form of the dreaded outsourcing. Sadly it's not just Auntie and her Breakfast it's everywhere. As we say at work....
TINA WAWWA

[Suffolkcoastal]

I know what you mean Anton, about 10 or more years ago I was interviewed for a post with the Philharmonia Orchestra, the musical enthusiasm and knowledge of the general staff I spoke too was appalling some not being the slightest bit interested in music. The management didn't seem to have much enthusiasm either. I had another one with Novellos around the same time and was told 'off the record' that I was much too knowledgeable and that certain members of management didn't want people such as this! I must be very old fashioned and I learnt knowledge, enthusiasm and a passion for a subject no longer seem to matter.

[teamsaint]

I thought about applying for a job running " Sales and Marketing" at a local arts venue. (on a much lower salary than I was on at the time).
I thought that 25 years experience in sales, some basic knowledge of marketing techniques, and a general interest in arts might go a long way towards getting me considered.
Then I read the job spec. What they really wanted was a bureaucrat who could design a nice brochure. So it goes.

[Serial_Apologist]

I thought about applying for a job running " Sales and Marketing" at a local arts venue. (on a much lower salary than I was on at the time).
I thought that 25 years experience in sales, some basic knowledge of marketing techniques, and a general interest in arts might go a long way towards getting me considered.
Then I read the job spec. What they really wanted was a bureaucrat who could design a nice brochure. So it goes.

This absolutely concurs with my own experience in a different field, applying with a BSc for a horticultural job in a wide variety of settings, and this was more than 10 years ago. I was told, either a) that I didn't have the relevant experience, or b) was too knowledgeable for the job in question. It would have been better for me had I falsified by downgrading my qualifications - or lied, in other words. So it cuts right across employment fields and has done for a long time; and "they" wonder what is wrong with the way "our" industries and businesses are being run.

[Zucchini]

Sara tweets re Sony RAA:

@SaraMohrPietsch 1h Delighted and deeply proud of the whole team for our Breakfast Show of the Year nomination*

That's spoiled your day.

[Frances_iom]

Sara tweets re Sony RAA:

@SaraMohrPietsch 1h Delighted and deeply proud of the whole team for our Breakfast Show of the Year nomination*

That's spoiled your day.

I recall that Late Junkshop was also so nominated by the old boys club but within a couple of years had been relegated to graveyard hours - maybe the equivalent for Breakfast would be in parallel with the farming news