The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Parddu]

I'm by no means a fan of Breakfast but I revelled in yesterday's playing of Bethlehem Down sung, if my memory serves me correctly, by the choir of Guildford Cathedral. Lovely :)

[mercia]

Hilarious performance of a Chopin Ballade by Richter just now on Breakfast, I don't think I've heard so many wrong notes before.

[Eudaimonia]

FWIW, texting and tweeting have no place on Radio 3, as they are inherently trivial, and can be of no interest to anyone other than the texter or tweeter.

Oh? I wouldn't be so quick to consign an entire medium of communication to the dungheap--especially not if that's the one presenters are actually paying attention to and actively hearing.

Here's a thought: what if a dozen people here made the effort to become skilled at writing pithy, epigrammatic zingers that really make people sit up and take notice?

Think about it! If you can make serious points with wit and humor that end up being broadcast, everyone wins: the presenters get a more meaningful, interesting, and entertaining show and you get your message across to a broad audience.

Even if you wish we could all go back to the days of "just music", realistically speaking, that's not going to happen so you might as well make the most of it. Just because Twitter and texts are a) severely limited and b) duller than dirt nine times out of ten doesn't mean you can't use them to your advantage if you think creatively and put some effort into it.

Here's a book you might find relevant when thinking about these issues:

Persuasion, Social Influence, and Compliance Gaining
Robert H. Gass, John S. Seiter

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=igRIQgAACAAJ&dq=persuasion+social+influence&hl=en&ei=_iYHTc6bDML-8AaX85HnAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA

[Frances_iom]

Think about it! If you can make serious points with wit and humor that end up being broadcast, everyone wins: the presenters get a more meaningful, interesting, and entertaining show and you get your message across to a broad audience.

Even if you wish we could all go back to the days of "just music", realistically speaking, that's not going to happen

2nd point - why not?
1st point - why buy into the nonsense ?
Re suggested reading must be something genetic that Europeans don't share so much - try the Dale Carnegie How to Win Friends and Influence People of 1937 - typical American - has little influence I can see on their politics - just designed to keep the plebs sweet and believing they can change things.

[John Wright]

R3 is, by far, the Station with the highest cost-per-listener of all the BBC stations and bearing in mind that the axe will shortly fall, I feel there must be a mad scramble to try and improve this by trying to “popularise”.

Daring Tripod,

You should also know that evening and twilight programmes on the 'popular' Radio 2 often get less than 250,000 listeners which is less than some Radio 3 programmes, so.....

[Panjandrum]

Oh? I wouldn't be so quick to consign an entire medium of communication to the dungheap--especially not if that's the one presenters are actually paying attention to and actively hearing.

Here's a thought: what if a dozen people here made the effort to become skilled at writing pithy, epigrammatic zingers that really make people sit up and take notice?

Think about it! If you can make serious points with wit and humor that end up being broadcast, everyone wins: the presenters get a more meaningful, interesting, and entertaining show and you get your message across to a broad audience.

Even if you wish we could all go back to the days of "just music", realistically speaking, that's not going to happen so you might as well make the most of it. Just because Twitter and texts are a) severely limited and b) duller than dirt nine times out of ten doesn't mean you can't use them to your advantage if you think creatively and put some effort into it.

Here's a book you might find relevant when thinking about these issues:

Persuasion, Social Influence, and Compliance Gaining
Robert H. Gass, John S. Seiter

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=i...ed=0CCsQ6AEwAA

Patronising drivel...

[french frank]

Think about it! If you can make serious points with wit and humor that end up being broadcast, everyone wins: the presenters get a more meaningful, interesting, and entertaining show and you get your message across to a broad audience.

Everyone wins? I think the main message people are trying to get across is that they don't want listener messages being read out in the middle of music programmes. So it's a bit of a Catch-22, isn't it?

It's possible that being from, and based in, another part of the world and not having had the experience of being a Radio 3 listener over many years, you don't really have the necessary empathy to appreciate the views of R3's audience?

[Martin]

Hilarious performance of a Chopin Ballade by Richter just now on Breakfast, I don't think I've heard so many wrong notes before.

It was quite awful, I must agree. Rob Cowan didn't seem to think so though.

[Nick Armstrong]

Did I hear aright (from the bathroom) that Rob is running a 'Nation's Favourite Mozart piece' currently, with various faves being played in the run up to Christmas...??? PLUS the Mozart orgy for 12 days after, or in January, or whenever it is???

Wouldn't it have made more sense to do the 'What's your favourite Mozart' after the playing of everything, so that people could evaluate what they'd heard, and might come up with something other than the inevitable Ave Verum etc etc...

Hmmmm.... although...

On second thoughts, maybe after the 12 days Wolfie-Fest, they think everyone (or most people) will be so heartily sick of Mozart that they want to listen to ANYTHING other than his music...

[doversoul1]

Caliban
Do I understand you aright that you had never heard of this Mozart fest until this morning?

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?480-Mozart-Fest

Or have I got you wrong?

[PatrickOD]

I wonder why the Ave Verum is the inevitable choice of so many people. Is it one of those sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.

[Nick Armstrong]

Caliban
Do I understand you aright that you had never heard of this Mozart fest until this morning?

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?480-Mozart-Fest

Or have I got you wrong?

No no I'd heard about the January marathon... It's just the pre-Christmas add-on that I picked up this morning.

Ave Verum Corpus has always left me rather cold for some reason. For me the best of Mozart are the Piano Concertos: catching interesting versions of them will be what keeps me listening in January, I suspect...

[Perdix]

Well said Caliban. I enjoy Breakfast immensely, apart from the trailers, the chart, and the coming up nexts. But I can live with those things, and wouldn't be without it.

I'm glad I can still be Perdix here. I've only just realised that the R3 MB has gone. Doubtless this has been gone over twenty million times, but can someone please tell me in one sentence why the BBC shut them down?

[Bax-of-Delights]

Perdix:
It depends on how cynical you feel:

A) The BBC wanted to save money.
B) They became irritated by the sniping at the actual or perceived dumbing of the broadcasting on R3 and instead of entering into dialogue decided that the best way of attending to what they believe the public wants is by ignoring them.

[Perdix]

It's good to see the old names here, but I don't think I can cope with all this red. Not to mention all these http://www.for3.org/forums/images/smilies/f_cool.gif.