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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    • Apr 2014
    • 6925

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

    On the other hand, that might be better than what was on offer as part of this morning's Breakfast menu,. I awoke to the strains of somebody's 'take' on Mariah Carey's 'All I Want For Christmas Is You'.
    Christmas has become an excuse to turn Radio 3 into a version of eighties Radio 2 . Full of slushy Xmas music Have Yourself A Merry etc, , pop music , overblown orchestral arrangements of carols and even the odd Carol . With a few Honourable exceptions (last Sundays all day live performances) it’s absolutely awful.

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    • underthecountertenor
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      • Apr 2011
      • 1586

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post

      On the other hand, that might be better than what was on offer as part of this morning's Breakfast menu,. I awoke to the strains of somebody's 'take' on Mariah Carey's 'All I Want For Christmas Is You'.
      …with a crashing segue into John Rutter’s ‘What Sweeter Music’ (and I DO like a dash of Rutter at Christmas, and indeed at other times) in a recording of what to my innocent ear sounded like a slightly above average church choir and turned out to be King’s College Cambridge.

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      • willietell
        Full Member
        • Nov 2020
        • 13

        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
        I awoke to the strains of somebody's 'take' on Mariah Carey's 'All I Want For Christmas Is You'.
        That was the point at which I switched the radio off and turned to my own record library. I'm currently listening to Sibelius, whose breathtaking Finnish landscapes are as close to Christmas as I want to be right now

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 11060

          Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post

          …with a crashing segue into John Rutter’s ‘What Sweeter Music’ (and I DO like a dash of Rutter at Christmas, and indeed at other times) in a recording of what to my innocent ear sounded like a slightly above average church choir and turned out to be King’s College Cambridge.
          I'm quite sure that your ear will be better trained to notice jarring clashes of key and style than the producer's, presenter's, or curator's.

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12927

            Originally posted by willietell View Post

            That was the point at which I switched the radio off and turned to my own record library...
            ... I was seriously considering as a New Year resolution abandoning Radio 3 entirely, and using my CDs.

            And I am now thinking of starting that Resolution now ....



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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6925

              Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post

              …with a crashing segue into John Rutter’s ‘What Sweeter Music’ (and I DO like a dash of Rutter at Christmas, and indeed at other times) in a recording of what to my innocent ear sounded like a slightly above average church choir and turned out to be King’s College Cambridge.
              Radio Segues hardly ever really work . They always jar because of mood, key and tuning issues . Unless they are part of a composition e,g, the thrilling mediant change from E minor to C between movements 2 And 3 of Beethoven’s 4 th PC.
              They are used to make the tedious job of slapping on another disc in a radio studio a tad more interesting . They started with pop DJ’s and have now invaded the classical arena sadly

              Incidentally in Radio One they always spelt it Segway ….

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              • willietell
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                • Nov 2020
                • 13

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                ... I was seriously considering as a New Year resolution abandoning Radio 3 entirely, and using my CDs.

                And I am now thinking of starting that Resolution now ....


                Looking at the schedules for the next few days I'm now doing exactly the same. The upside is that I'm rediscovering treasures in my own library that I haven't heard for a while - and no trailers for 'Unwind' or 'Ultimate Calm'!

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                • hmvman
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1121

                  Originally posted by willietell View Post
                  .. - and no trailers for 'Unwind' or 'Ultimate Calm'!
                  The only 'unwinding' being done in this house is the springs of my gramophone...

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                  • smittims
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                    • Aug 2022
                    • 4324

                    My unfavourite moment this morning was that funereal rendering of 'Have yourself a Merry little Christmas'. The original song was in polka tempo, a brisk two-four, which after all does match the words, but for some odd reason it's acquired the same treatment meted out to 'Nimrod' . Barber's Adagio, etc.

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6925

                      Originally posted by smittims View Post
                      My unfavourite moment this morning was that funereal rendering of 'Have yourself a Merry little Christmas'. The original song was in polka tempo, a brisk two-four, which after all does match the words, but for some odd reason it's acquired the same treatment meted out to 'Nimrod' . Barber's Adagio, etc.
                      It’s harmonically and rhythmically duffed up by generations of jazzers as well.

                      Its Judy Garland’s song and should be left alone .

                      Apparently at Hollywood Xmas parties she’d sing it as a party piece. Now that would be worth hearing,..,

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8627

                        Originally posted by willietell View Post

                        Looking at the schedules for the next few days I'm now doing exactly the same. The upside is that I'm rediscovering treasures in my own library that I haven't heard for a while - and no trailers for 'Unwind' or 'Ultimate Calm'!
                        That,s been my policy for some time now.

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8627

                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                          It’s harmonically and rhythmically duffed up by generations of jazzers as well.

                          Its Judy Garland’s song and should be left alone .

                          Apparently at Hollywood Xmas parties she’d sing it as a party piece. Now that would be worth hearing,..,
                          ... with an honourable mention for Nat King Cole?

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6925

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                            ... with an honourable mention for Nat King Cole?
                            Granted . No one in that genre has ever sung as in tune as Nat. His ear was incredible.

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                            • oddoneout
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 9268

                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                              Radio Segues hardly ever really work . They always jar because of mood, key and tuning issues . Unless they are part of a composition e,g, the thrilling mediant change from E minor to C between movements 2 And 3 of Beethoven’s 4 th PC.
                              They are used to make the tedious job of slapping on another disc in a radio studio a tad more interesting . They started with pop DJ’s and have now invaded the classical arena sadly

                              Incidentally in Radio One they always spelt it Segway ….
                              How do/did they get away with that?

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                              • Ein Heldenleben
                                Full Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 6925

                                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                                How do/did they get away with that?
                                Dunno . It was also usually abbreviated to seg in speech. Think I might have mentioned it once that it’s segue : from the Italian for to follow . My Radio One career died at that moment..

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