The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[kernelbogey]

Six thirty a.m., Broadcasting house, London, England:
So Hannah French back-announces the last item of TTN - Ave Maris Stella by Johann Stadlmayr (died c1648 since you ask)... and then we're into a minute of insane orchestral segues and Jules Holland (is it?) yelling about his programme before Hannah can say who she is, what programme she's presenting, introduce the newsreader and all that.

THIS IS AN INSANE, INSULTING APPROACH TO YOUR LISTENERS MR JACKSON.

PLEASE STOP DOING THIS!

Speaking, ahem, as a one-time marketing person, I don''t think these R3 adverts are very good anyway. (And the grapes taste fine, btw.)

[kernelbogey]

well done ff ,, it is very, very irritating and is, I would guess, a directive from Wacko

Thanks, Anton; I'll go back on the pills, I think.

[LMcD]

You have my full permission, if you so choose, ff. As you will note, it was written almost three hours later, and I still felt the same.

Actually Hanna F more or less swallowed her name as she began her intro, as though ashamed to be in on this farrago.

[french frank]

By popular request :-) sent to CR3, the DG and bcc'd to the Kernel, subject title Frayed nerves:


Dear Mr Jackson
Friends of Radio 3 finally gave up its campaigning as a lost battle - before your time - when Radio 3 ("the UK's leading cultural broadcaster") introduced Tearjerker, Happy Harmonies, Piano Flow and similar programmes into its schedules. And when presenters who knew little or nothing about classical music were recruited to present ... classical music programmes. Many of us decided that, after decades of listening, Radio 3 was no longer directed at us, nor did it care whether we listened or not. Eventually patience snaps: this was posted on the R3 forum this morning:

[Here the Kernel's post]

Other changes which have prompted regular complaints on the R3 forum include:

the endless, intrusive programme trails
the relegation of Record Review from its Saturday slot to a listening backwater
the ditching of most of the Lunchtime Concerts
the almost inevitable short extracts rather than the complete works
the replacement of informative presentation by relaxed triviality
Radio 2 programmes (Jools Holland, Friday Night Is Music Night) moved to Radio 3

To be truly 'inclusive', Radio 3 should cater for the informed, serious, intelligent audience for the arts and culture who happen to enjoy classical music. That used to be the station's raison d'être.

[french frank]

Damn - forgot to include Afternoon Concert as was.

[AuntDaisy]

By popular request :-) sent to CR3, the DG and bcc'd to the Kernel, subject title Frayed nerves:


Dear Mr Jackson
Friends of Radio 3 finally gave up its campaigning as a lost battle - before your time - when Radio 3 ("the UK's leading cultural broadcaster") introduced Tearjerker, Happy Harmonies, Piano Flow and similar programmes into its schedules. And when presenters who knew little or nothing about classical music were recruited to present ... classical music programmes. Many of us decided that, after decades of listening, Radio 3 was no longer directed at us, nor did it care whether we listened or not. Eventually patience snaps: this was posted on the R3 forum this morning:

[Here the Kernel's post]

Other changes which have prompted regular complaints on the R3 forum include:

the endless, intrusive programme trails
the relegation of Record Review from its Saturday slot to a listening backwater
the ditching of most of the Lunchtime Concerts
the almost inevitable short extracts rather than the complete works
the replacement of informative presentation by relaxed triviality
Radio 2 programmes (Jools Holland, Friday Night Is Music Night) moved to Radio 3

To be truly 'inclusive', Radio 3 should cater for the informed, serious, intelligent audience for the arts and culture who happen to enjoy classical music. That used to be the station's raison d'être.

Well done.

P.S. You also forgot to ask for a signed photo

[french frank]

And I've had a kind acknowledgement from his PA - whom I knew in the old days when she was RW's PA. Yes, a signed photo iof SJ n his tight jeans would have been good.

[AuntDaisy]

And I've had a kind acknowledgement from his PA - whom I knew in the old days when she was RW's PA. Yes, a signed photo iof SJ n his tight jeans would have been good.

Compared to now, the RW era seems like the Halcyon days of R3... I wonder if she was also PA to AD (affable, chubby, moon-faced)?

Would this do? Sans jeans, I'm afraid.
Sam J propping up the wall

[Old Grumpy]

Compared to now, the RW era seems like the Halcyon days of R3... I wonder if she was also PA to AD (affable, chubby, moon-faced)?

Would this do? Sans jeans, I'm afraid.
Sam J propping up the wall

Well ar least he's not spaffing up a wall as BoJo would...

[oddoneout]

Compared to now, the RW era seems like the Halcyon days of R3... I wonder if she was also PA to AD (affable, chubby, moon-faced)?

Would this do? Sans jeans, I'm afraid.
Sam J propping up the wall

That provoked a tremor of apprehension, fortunately unwarranted. He doesn't look exactly at ease in that picture - too close to heavy level culture?
Perhaps we should become modern day sans-culottes? Rather than disadvantaged social status we are suffering disadvantaged cultural status.

[Pulcinella]

That provoked a tremor of apprehension, fortunately unwarranted. He doesn't look exactly at ease in that picture - too close to heavy level culture?
Perhaps we should become modern day sans-culottes? Rather than disadvantaged social status we are suffering disadvantaged cultural status.

Because he's looking out of place with no mates or fawning admirers?

[AuntDaisy]

Because he's looking out of place with no mates or fawning admirers?

And avoiding the Prommers?

[french frank]

Kudos! I've had quite a lengthy reply which I'll share when I've taken it all in. A dialogue may ensue, we may get some 'improvement' (from our perspective). And we may not. Looooong years of disappointment can make one a trifle cynical But stay tuned ...

[Pulcinella]

Kudos! I've had quite a lengthy reply which I'll share when I've taken it all in. A dialogue may ensue, we may get some 'improvement' (from our perspective). And we may not. Looooong years of disappointment can make one a trifle cynical But stay tuned ...

Congratulations!!

[AuntDaisy]

Kudos! I've had quite a lengthy reply which I'll share when I've taken it all in. A dialogue may ensue, we may get some 'improvement' (from our perspective). And we may not. Looooong years of disappointment can make one a trifle cynical But stay tuned ...

As Pulcinella said, congratulations FF, and to kernelbogey for exploding so graphically.