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The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by smittims View PostI' afraid this confirms the suspicion that R3 no longer knows just what it's there for. To describe a news'n chat show as 'escape' show that they just haven't thought about it.
The, now historical, idea of 'creating an audience' for 'good music' [sic, and with that include 'high culture'] is buried in the past.
It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post
The BBC now shuns anything that might be thought of as 'difficult', 'demanding' or 'stretching'. Not what people want. And of course, they're right, most people don't want that from their radio programmes. The minority that do are, unfortunately, a minority of the kind that can safely be ignored. Diversity doesn't cover that group. Yes, the BBC/R3 have the Proms and a few programmes that are at least calculated to appeal to that minority (the New Music Show, the Early Music Show, CotW) though even they are hardly 'demanding' and are in any case a small proportion of the broadcasting hours the BBC has available
The, now historical, idea of 'creating an audience' for 'good music' [sic, and with that include 'high culture'] is buried in the past.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Blimey! “Terms like excellence,” the ACE authors advise, “are indicative of the way in which opera and music theatre still retains [sic = they're the same thing] unhelpful hierarchies about what kinds of work are valued.” Me, I value things that are really BAD.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... " “Terms like excellence,” the ACE authors advise, “are indicative of the way in which opera and music theatre still retains unhelpful hierarchies about what kinds of work are valued.” - and they continue : "“Good”, while permissible, should appear in inverted commas."
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My problem with ACE is they put quite a bit of money into stuff that’s very worthy but artistically of questionable value . Of course those making the decisions know that but that don’t dare say it. Peter Bazalgette for example is to be seen at the opera and Wigmore Hall regularly but how often does he make it to some of the outreach work up North ? There is a lot of stuff they put money into I don’t like but I don’t have a problem with that if I can see a vestige of artistic integrity, ambition or originality in the project , I’d even stretch a point if it might attract a new audience - but some of it is both poor quality and a massive artistic self indulgence.
Unless ACE is prepared to make value judgements on artistic work I can see very little point in it surviving . The money might as well go into education or social work.
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I read this the other day
Review will assess ‘ambition and quality’ of ACE-funded projects after sustained political scrutiny of council
and now, having read the Catherine Bennett article, a "two birds with one stone" idea occurred to me.
If the argument against opera is the dead one, then why not extend that to other art forms - all that music written by people now dead(nearly said written by dead people...), paintings, sculpture, books (and the buildings that house them) etc. All dead, so don't pay for it. That would save a lot of money, to put in favoured back pockets and support the things that really matter...
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Originally posted by smittims View PostI' afraid this confirms the suspicion that R3 no longer knows just what it's there for. To describe a news'n chat show as 'escape' show that they just haven't thought about it.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostI read this the other day
Review will assess ‘ambition and quality’ of ACE-funded projects after sustained political scrutiny of council
and now, having read the Catherine Bennett article, a "two birds with one stone" idea occurred to me.
If the argument against opera is the dead one, then why not extend that to other art forms - all that music written by people now dead(nearly said written by dead people...), paintings, sculpture, books (and the buildings that house them) etc. All dead, so don't pay for it. That would save a lot of money, to put in favoured back pockets and support the things that really matter...
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostI read this the other day
Review will assess ‘ambition and quality’ of ACE-funded projects after sustained political scrutiny of council
and now, having read the Catherine Bennett article, a "two birds with one stone" idea occurred to me.
If the argument against opera is the dead one, then why not extend that to other art forms - all that music written by people now dead(nearly said written by dead people...), paintings, sculpture, books (and the buildings that house them) etc. All dead, so don't pay for it. That would save a lot of money, to put in favoured back pockets and support the things that really matter...It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
Seeing Mary Archer in the main job of discerning public taste in cultural matters calls to mind Mrs Merton's comment on Paul Daniels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-9lSEBBm0
Also her husband is a leading light in contemporary literature and owns a vast amount of very expensive Impressionist Paintings.
google Mary Archer sings Tom Lehrer . I can’t face linking to it…..
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostAlso her husband is a leading light in contemporary literature and owns a vast amount of very expensive Impressionist Paintings.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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