The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
We need a white rose, methinks.
...Though I note from the weekend edition of Yorkshire's National Newspaper that the bard actually travels regularly to Salford to record his "Radio 3 Show" anyway.
It's really most disorientating!
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I could echo what countless others have said, about the trivialisation of R3, the constant interruptions with facile and generally superfluous trailers, the cult of presenters, etc. But on the latter point I find I am increasingly drawn to programmes with better presenting, just because some are now more or less unlistenable. I still like Breakfst - mostly. But E Alka's poor diction and gabbling speech puts me off.
The misleadingly named 'Essential Classics' I have avoided for some time, because of the hectoring about 'my' Playlister Challenge, and G Mann's bossy schoolmarm manner. I increasingly rely on 'Through The Night' for complete works with fewer introductions, less personality blather, and no one telling me what to do. Now I suppose that programme too will be degraded like the rest.
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Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
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I endorse your views, Serrano. I do hope no-one tampers with TTN. I like it just as it is.
I think 'Breakfast' , Iike the Olympic Games and the Last Night of the Proms, needs reforming. I'd replace it with something called , er... 'Morning on 3' , and it would consist of only complete pieces of music with short, friendly but informative introductions: a sort of 'Through the Day'.
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Originally posted by smittims View PostI endorse your views, Serrano. I do hope no-one tampers with TTN. I like it just as it is.
I think 'Breakfast' , Iike the Olympic Games and the Last Night of the Proms, needs reforming. I'd replace it with something called , er... 'Morning on 3' , and it would consist of only complete pieces of music with short, friendly but informative introductions: a sort of 'Through the Day'.
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Originally posted by Serrano View PostI could echo what countless others have said, about the trivialisation of R3, the constant interruptions with facile and generally superfluous trailers, the cult of presenters, etc. But on the latter point I find I am increasingly drawn to programmes with better presenting, just because some are now more or less unlistenable. I still like Breakfst - mostly. But E Alka's poor diction and gabbling speech puts me off.
The misleadingly named 'Essential Classics' I have avoided for some time, because of the hectoring about 'my' Playlister Challenge, and G Mann's bossy schoolmarm manner. I increasingly rely on 'Through The Night' for complete works with fewer introductions, less personality blather, and no one telling me what to do. Now I suppose that programme too will be degraded like the rest.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
It would be better to reform Essential Classics, along the lines you suggest, in my view. I think that Breakfast does a good job of making the transition from/break between TTN and the daytime schedules, but that EC should then move on to something more fully formed and less bitty, rather than more of the same. That never happened and evidently never will, given that bittiness is very obviously the preferred format now - look at what has happened to Afternoon Concert.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostI think that Breakfast does a good job of making the transition from/break between TTN and the daytime schedules
Tell us about the music you're going to play, play the music, tell us what you've played, and move on to the next piece. The insertion of the odd whimsical comment or joke not excluded. Morning on 3 used to be the easiest listening programme on R3, but even that managed to get by with about 12 pieces, rather than anything between 20-30 pieces, plus half a dozen tweets, a stroll in the countryside, an interview with a French pastry cook and a recording of a whistling macaw.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by LMcD View PostIf, as I believe I read somewhere, the programme is moving north, the young lady who hosts Saturday's Breakfast would seem a logical choice to some.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post
One might question, however, whether Radio 3 needs to 'make a transition' between TTN and the daytime schedules. The fact that certain listeners enjoy it is no more an argument than that certain other listeners think it's awful.
Tell us about the music you're going to play, play the music, tell us what you've played, and move on to the next piece. The insertion of the odd whimsical comment or joke not excluded. Morning on 3 used to be the easiest listening programme on R3, but even that managed to get by with about 12 pieces, rather than anything between 20-30 pieces, plus half a dozen tweets, a stroll in the countryside, an interview with a French pastry cook and a recording of a whistling macaw.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View Postall of which got in the way of the news summaries and the 3 ad slots of course.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post
And the pips? I was, of course, exaggerating a tiny bit about the add-ons. For me it's really the lack of full length works ("Where's the beef?") that makes most of R3 musically of nil interest to me now. I don't mind what the non-classical music programmes are like as I don't listen to them. The disappointment is that it's the classical programmes that are of no interest
Bit of a sad state of affairs if weekday Breakfast becomes my most listened to programme, but it has changed, adapted and evolved into something that, as a short-form(so to speak) music based programme works well in my opinion. I hear things(music, news and info) on there that I don't hear on other programmes, and the occasional free-range segments are a delight. The adoption of the bitty format for following programmes is management blundering and ignorance as far as I'm concerned, not least as it isn't done well - just copy and paste without thought or structure. Yes there are external demands and constraints but is the current state of affairs really the way to meet those challenges?
As I think I've mused before it would be ironic, and very sad, if R3's deterioration ends up pushing me into getting the kit and knowhow to access the very forms of listening that are a threat to its raison d'etre and survival.
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