The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[oddoneout]

To clarify regarding presenters - I was saying that it was irrelevant whether individual listeners liked or disliked particular presenters based on the presenter's personal attributes (can't stand the girly flirty style, like his warm enthusiastic manner &c). My Favourite is someone else's Can't Stand. Much is to do with what station managers want of presenters (chirpy, information lite, keep them listening). Style v Content.

Indeed, and applies across the board - a "serious", factual broadcast can be blighted for some who are interested in the content but that interest doesn't over-ride dislike of the presenter. I face this with Tom Service among others. However, what I do dislike is when a presenter, in whatever sphere, I've previously liked or tolerated, changes so much that what may have been mildly irritating but tolerable becomes actively off-putting. That such change may be actively brought about is even more annoying, *not least as it is so often done by those who have no real interest in the programmes as such - they don't watch/listen regularly in the way the public does - but are the result of "trends" and/or management impositions driven by numbers and targets.
When bubbly tips over into frothy, or the ability to walk and talk simultaneously becomes a requirement to deliver theories while performing a trapeze routine, then as far as I'm concerned those in charge have lost track of their purpose.

*Jaundiced personal opinion warning.

[AuntDaisy]

Did MH just say "the vile fantasies of Henry Purcell"?

[Pulcinella]

Just listening for the first time in eons; absolutely dire (imho).
I see that the website describes it as Lazy classical Sunday.

Lazy choices of music, I'd say.

[french frank]

As well as being one of those meaningless clichés that make me (cf: “it is what it is” )

As a response to "they all have different styles, it all good", the correct response would be: 'I disagree (or, I couldn't disagree with you more (violently) actually'. I wonder whether the dislike of the phrase 'It is what it is' is that it implies the obvious and therefore suggests that the objectors should have realised it themselves but need to have it pointed out? In some contexts, 'You're banging your head against a brick wall' might do instead.

[oddoneout]

Did MH just say "the vile fantasies of Henry Purcell"?

Homonyms eh, just out to cause trouble.

[kernelbogey]

(Crossposting this from 'Annoying trails' thread:

In recent days there have been more instances of presenters doing a bit of live promo activity - informal brief mention of one or two programmes coming up later in the day....

I too have noticed this: just from listening to Sunday Breakfast - with my favourite and soon-to-be-let-go-from-it presenter Martin Handley - these 'talkings up' of coming broadcasts seem to be becoming more frequent. Fair enough for Martin to mention Wigmore Hall recitals et al that he has himself presented. But I can't help thinking that an ukase has come from on high for producers to scour the upcoming schedule and shoehorn in pieces of music whose link can offer the opportunity of a talking-up. ('And talking of Mozart, on Radio 3 on Wednesday afternoon....' etc.)

[french frank]

and shoehorn in pieces of music whose link can offer the opportunity of a talking-up. ('And talking of Mozart, on Radio 3 on Wednesday afternoon....' etc.)

That was /used to be what faintly annoyed me: the suspicion that a work on one programme was chosen in order to provide an opportunity to trail another one. I'm sure I remember RW telling me that 'trails don't work' but I'm not sure what his definition of 'not working' was. (In fact he might have said 'don't increase reach' - all so long ago ).

[AuntDaisy]

I don't usually listen to Breakfast, but "Today" was depressing...
Petroc T accidentally cut in with "Do you want to talk me through what we're going to have here?" during a cheerful Buxtehude trio sonata. ~1:40:13 in today's Breakfast.

[antongould]

I don't usually listen to Breakfast, but "Today" was depressing...
Petroc T accidentally cut in with "Do you want to talk me through what we're going to have here?" during a cheerful Buxtehude trio sonata. ~1:40:13 in today's Breakfast.

It is Truro …… have they got WiFi ……. ???????

[kernelbogey]

I don't usually listen to Breakfast, but "Today" was depressing...
Petroc T accidentally cut in with "Do you want to talk me through what we're going to have here?" during a cheerful Buxtehude trio sonata. ~1:40:13 in today's Breakfast.

I too heard that and it depressed me to think that if he didn't know what was coming up then he doesn't write his own scripts!

[AuntDaisy]

I too heard that and it depressed me to think that if he didn't know what was coming up then he doesn't write his own scripts!

It cheered me up, even with all that tech. things can still go wrong. But, that's a good point about the scripts.

P.S. I suppose they could have been discussing the choices for the "Breakfast" Christmas Party menu

[smittims]

Years ago I used to switch on Radio 3 at random and the chances were I'd hear classical music. Now if I do it it's usually chat. Recently it was 'Autumn' from Glazunov's 'Seasons'. The whole work lasts only 36 minutes but I supose the excuse was that it is actually Autumn so it was just to fit that. But alas! it wasn't even the whole of 'Autumn', whih lasts only about ten minutes, just the opening section. I find this very unsatisfying .

[LMcD]

Years ago I used to switch on Radio 3 at random and the chances were I'd hear classical music. Now if I do it it's usually chat. Recently it was 'Autumn' from Glazunov's 'Seasons'. The whole work lasts only 36 minutes but I supose the excuse was that it is actually Autumn so it was just to fit that. But alas! it wasn't even the whole of 'Autumn', whih lasts only about ten minutes, just the opening section. I find this very unsatisfying .

I'm not sure whether I believe the rumour that, in future, only the first 2'48" of John Cage's 4'33" will be played.

[kernelbogey]

Martin Handley presenting today... so I get two Breakfasts this weekend!

[oddoneout]

Martin Handley presenting today... so I get two Breakfasts this weekend!

Drat! I'd forgotten that, so hadn't bothered switching on - not that I do very often these days for a Saturday anyway, and I was late up so there wasn't much left before RR which I didn't want to listen to so didn't switch on even on spec to try and brighten a dismal morning.