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  • oddoneout
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    • Nov 2015
    • 9135

    A slightly odd item a few minutes ago - an arrangement for trombone and piano of Land of Hope and Glory. The words of the opening verse strike hollow these days anyway so the fact that the mournful sound of the trombone and the slow speed made it sound like a lament or dirge seemed appropriate.

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    • kernelbogey
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      • Nov 2010
      • 5735

      Weirdly - I can't remember a single previous instance - TTN ran over by 8 minutes this morning, so Breakfast started 8 minutes late, with not a mention from presenter EA; she even said 'It's seven o'clock'.... What are things coming to at Radio Three if they can't get the time check right? It's deja vue all over again with Jack de Manio syndrome in the twenty-first century! I blame those Tearjerker and Happy Harmonies people. ?

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4034

        The Lunchtime concert used to overrun quite often. I'd switch on to hear the first item on 'Afternoon on3' and hear some Broadway hit belted out as an encore to a whooping audience. But getting the time wrong is amazing. Older listeners will remember an occasion when a piece of music overran and was interrupted by the Greenwich Time Signal, whereupon Tom Crowe said 'I hope the music didn't spoil your enjoyment of the pips.'

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        • oddoneout
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          • Nov 2015
          • 9135

          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          The Lunchtime concert used to overrun quite often. I'd switch on to hear the first item on 'Afternoon on3' and hear some Broadway hit belted out as an encore to a whooping audience. But getting the time wrong is amazing. Older listeners will remember an occasion when a piece of music overran and was interrupted by the Greenwich Time Signal, whereupon Tom Crowe said 'I hope the music didn't spoil your enjoyment of the pips.'
          I don't recall Broadway hit encores or whooping audiences but when the Lunchtime Concert is a genuine live broadcast then there is always going to be the possibility of timings going adrift. There seems now to be a short period between ending of Lunchtime Concert and beginning of Afternoon Concert (Proms repeats means that for now it does at least live up to its title) to accommodate a filler/adverts/waffle which can also presumably be used to absorb any LC over-run.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30205

            Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
            Weirdly - I can't remember a single previous instance - TTN ran over by 8 minutes this morning, so Breakfast started 8 minutes late, with not a mention from presenter EA; she even said 'It's seven o'clock'.... What are things coming to at Radio Three if they can't get the time check right? It's deja vue all over again with Jack de Manio syndrome in the twenty-first century! I blame those Tearjerker and Happy Harmonies people. ?
            I wonder how that happened? It's quite usual for live concerts and recitals to be immediately followed by a live programme which can adjust its start time and reshuffle its content a bit. But TWO abnormalities together: TTN overrunning and the following programme ignoring the fact on giving out the time ... Are you sure she didn't say "It's now 7 o'clock-ish, give or take", kernel?
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • AuntDaisy
              Host
              • Jun 2018
              • 1603

              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
              Weirdly - I can't remember a single previous instance - TTN ran over by 8 minutes this morning, so Breakfast started 8 minutes late, with not a mention from presenter EA; she even said 'It's seven o'clock'.... What are things coming to at Radio Three if they can't get the time check right? It's deja vue all over again with Jack de Manio syndrome in the twenty-first century! I blame those Tearjerker and Happy Harmonies people. ?
              Kernelbogey, how were you listening to R3? Was it Internet radio, DAB, FM...
              I wasn't really concentrating at the time and didn't notice the TTN over-run (Internet radio), but the off-air seems roughly on time.

              Very happy to also "blame those Tearjerker and Happy Harmonies people" - the airwaves were probably complaining.

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              • antongould
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8774

                Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                Kernelbogey, how were you listening to R3? Was it Internet radio, DAB, FM...
                I wasn't really concentrating at the time and didn't notice the TTN over-run (Internet radio), but the off-air seems roughly on time.

                Very happy to also "blame those Tearjerker and Happy Harmonies people" - the airwaves were probably complaining.
                has the mystery been solved sitting here very stressed ……. will EA get sacked …… ????





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                • kernelbogey
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5735

                  Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                  Kernelbogey, how were you listening to R3? Was it Internet radio, DAB, FM...
                  I wasn't really concentrating at the time and didn't notice the TTN over-run (Internet radio), but the off-air seems roughly on time.

                  Very happy to also "blame those Tearjerker and Happy Harmonies people" - the airwaves were probably complaining.
                  Ah hah, possibly defeated again by technology? I was listening on my laptop from the internet (obvs): 8 minutes still seems a large gap to have built up because of... what?... gerbils in the R3 server?

                  I would lay a fiver, FF, to assert that it was 0708 by my laptop clock, and two others.... and that EA asserted 'twas seven o'clock on Salford Quays....

                  Edit: I thought that TTN, being recorded, was completely automated, so that whatever someone in the studio might be saying or doing, 'the flutes', as Verity called them, would sound on the dot of 0030, not allowing Late Junction to ovrerrun by a second.
                  Last edited by kernelbogey; 29-07-23, 18:16.

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                  • antongould
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8774

                    Double EA this weekend for her many fans …….

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26514

                      Originally posted by antongould View Post
                      Double EA this weekend for her many fans …….
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • antongould
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8774

                        Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post


                        I know you would prefer Kate M

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26514

                          Originally posted by antongould View Post


                          I know you would prefer Kate M
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9135

                            Aargh, it's started - again. Details of this year's carol competition just announced...
                            So, in addition to all the other adverts for sporting fixtures, TV programmes, listen again options, we'll have this as well.
                            Reminds me that just as the heatwave was getting into its stride last week a favourite charity shop in town put out its Christmas stock; very much not the choice of the people running the shop(not least as they are the ones who have to listen to the customer grumbles about it every day) but Head Office had spoken so they had no choice.

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                            • Old Grumpy
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                              • Jan 2011
                              • 3594

                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                              Reminds me that just as the heatwave was getting into its stride last week a favourite charity shop in town put out its Christmas stock; very much not the choice of the people running the shop(not least as they are the ones who have to listen to the customer grumbles about it every day) but Head Office had spoken so they had no choice.
                              That, I agree is ridiculous. These people running the shop are presumably volunteers...


                              ...perhaps a polite TTFO to HO would be appropriate!

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                              • antongould
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8774

                                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                                That, I agree is ridiculous. These people running the shop are presumably volunteers...


                                ...perhaps a polite TTFO to HO would be appropriate!
                                Is that what Jimmy Young used to say OG ?????

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