The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Old Grumpy]

While showering ~7:30, Hannah French played Byrd's "O God that guides the cheerful sun" - it really cheered me up on this sunny morning.
But, looking at the R3 listings, it was the first piece at ~6:30 - what happened? Are the IT gremlins at work?
I think Bridge's Valse intermezzo started Breakfast.

Here's the listing ~8:15am


Earl Wild has appeared ~8:26.

Perhaps it was difficult for Hannah to change the records whilst showering

[AuntDaisy]

The TtN playlist is somewhat confused as well: the first two items (Kyurkchiyski and Poulenc) were actually the last two. Furthermore, the Sounds page puts these at the beginning, but reverses their order. If your browser can read json script, a look at this puts the Kyurkchiyski and Poulenc at the beginning, as items 0 and 1 but their 'version offsets' (in seconds) seem to be correct, placing them over 5 hours after the beginning; 19067 and 20311 seconds respectively.

Getting back to Breakfast, the json script has the items in the wrong order, but again the offsets are probably correct: the Bridge is item 4 at 137 seconds and the Byrd is item 0 at 3913 seconds

(This is going to play havoc with my database. I wonder how long it's been going on - will have to check.)

Thanks Andrew. TTN is up next
The TTN "summary" text looks okay (as does https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001556v.json); is it just "Music Played" that's having fun?
EBU Notturno listings match the summary text (with the usual 2 hour shifts).

From Sounds, here's what was actually played on Breakfast:
6:30 Bridge, Golijov, Prokofiev, Bach,
7:00 Field, Scarlatti, Schreker, Litolff
7:30 Byrd, Jeffes, Moeran, Boyle, Charpentier
8:00 Beethoven, Wild, Galway Shawl, Porpora
8:30 Todd, Sayed Darwish [x2 not listed], Mendelssohn, Chaminade

P.S. Better keep quiet about the JSON - they pulled the XML some time ago.

[AuntDaisy]

Perhaps it was difficult for Hannah to change the records whilst showering

Apologies, I could have phrased that better.

[Serial_Apologist]

Perhaps it was difficult for Hannah to change the records whilst showering

[Bax-of-Delights]

I only listened to EA from 8 o’clock but in that hour she managed to plug The Sage, Gateshead event this evening some 10+ times. Desperate to flog tickets? Whatever, it was a more than usual distraction to the very few truly classical pieces of music squeezed into those 60 minutes.

[Andrew Slater]

From Sounds, here's what was actually played on Breakfast:
6:30 Bridge, Golijov, Prokofiev, Bach,
7:00 Field, Scarlatti, Schreker, Litolff
7:30 Byrd, Jeffes, Moeran, Boyle, Charpentier
8:00 Beethoven, Wild, Galway Shawl, Porpora
8:30 Todd, Sayed Darwish [x2 not listed], Mendelssohn, Chaminade

All seems to have been corrected now, including the two Darwish items. (But TTN is still wrong!)

[AuntDaisy]

All seems to have been corrected now, including the two Darwish items. (But TTN is still wrong!)

Thanks Andrew.
Poor TTN - was ever thus.
I wonder if some poor minion had to manually update the database? Or, was a magical SQL incantation used (in which case, has anything else been fixed / mixed up?)

[kernelbogey]

Well there goes my Sunday morning start....

[AuntDaisy]

Well there goes my Sunday morning start....

Just hunting for my lederhosen - "Frankie Yankovic and His Yanks" drove me to it & the off switch.

[french frank]

I had this hunch, reading the latest posts

[cloughie]

I had this hunch, reading the latest posts

…and?

[french frank]

…and?

It was correct. Not that I was listening so it doesn't affect me

[Nick Armstrong]

Well there goes my Sunday morning start....

Thanks for the warning

[kernelbogey]

I had this hunch, reading the latest posts

That Aunt Daisy wears Lederhosen?

[french frank]

That Aunt Daisy wears Lederhosen?

I had a hunch about what you meant by, "Well there goes my Sunday morning start....". I had no thoughts about Aunt Daisy's wearing apparel.

As far as I'm concerned, a presenter can make a programme unlistenable, but no presenter makes a certain kind of programme listenable for me. I accept that in an age when the habit of walking out in the street with earphones constantly plugged into the ears (or being indoors 'listening' to whatever happens to be on the radio) is now a 'norm', but I still prefer a music programme which has an overarching unity (a concert or recital, two late Beethoven string quartets, two contrasting French works from the 1920s &c). I can think of other themes meeting this criterion which I wouldn't necessarily listen to but would fully approve of. It's the essential unity which would make a programme worth listening to - again for me.

But so many Radio 3 programmes have ended up as sequences made up of concert fillers or encores but no musical substance. I used to think that complaining about the lack of substance was self-evidently an argument for something better on Radio 3. But the tide of changing tastes was too strong.