The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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Originally posted by Quarky View Postfor example - bangers & mash:: https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/...rs---mash-450g
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Originally posted by Old Grumpy View PostDoesn't sound from FFs post as if she and S_A would be sharing a table if he has been shopping at St. Spree's (as he is wont to do)!It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostNo, I'm strictly a Coop shopper - but I don't do 'packaged meals' or convenience foods. I should have thought vints would have gone for those, since he described my Swiss maluns dish as 'a faff' (I call it 'cooking').
Not so. Proper 'cooking' is of course what we are looking for. If I call the necessary preparation for maluns 'a faff' it's bicoz the amount of time & effort required seems to bear no relation to the interest of the end product.
No packaged or convenience stuff here. Our mantra is the classic one - "real food*, not too much, mostly veg"
* by real = raw produce or cooked chez soi, as little preservative as possible/necessary. There are of course (delicious) exceptions
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... oi!!! ho! !!!
Originally posted by vinteuil View PostIf I call the necessary preparation for maluns 'a faff' it's bicoz the amount of time & effort required seems to bear no relation to the interest of the end product.
Originally posted by vinteuil View PostOur mantra is the classic one - "real food*, not too much, mostly veg"
* by real = raw produce or cooked chez soi, as little preservative as possible/necessary. There are of course (delicious) exceptionsIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostI just thought that the picture you painted of brow-beaten and bullied employees might not be accurate for all, and that some of those involved maybe see a valid purpose in what they do, beyond simply paying the bills.
Apologies if not all my comments come with an action plan that can be implemented.
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Originally posted by Quarky View PostThe logic is impeccable, but ultimately it is a subjective view. It seems to me that your view is allied to EA's oft-repeated view that Breakfast should be replaced by complete works.
I enjoyed KM's twists to the Breakfast Programme. Breakfast is rather like a packaged meal that you might buy from Sainsbury's, and KM has repackaged it slightly, with addition of Scottish music, electronic music, Jazz (AACM!), and very importantly, all with a sense of humour. Fine with me!
Presenters are obviously professional employees and do what they are told. They must have a detached view as to the music presented, perhaps not too different from a professional musician playing Eine Kleine Nacht Musik for the umpteentht time.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostOf course, one could argue that they don't have to take on the job in the first place / ... / you may be voting for your own penury; but in the end you can look back and say at least you didn't betray your principles.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostIt's always possible that the people in question (presenters) don't see things in quite the same way as critics of the shows do?
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... and you, o Serial - in your working life, did you ever have to compromise?
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Once, when I took a job in an armaments manufacturing industry.
Admittedly that was before I had any principles; later on I supported a cross trade union link proposing "alternative products" in a spears-to-ploughshares type initiative.
The second time, when as a staff rep I did not support a colleague sacked for working to rule when a vote to strike had been defeated in a secret ballot. I had tried my best to persuade him.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostThe privacy of exchanges I have had, over the years, with certain Radio 3 presenters preclude elaboration from me re that particular insight.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostThe balance of criticism of this programme has rightly been as much, if not more in terms of its format and content than of its presenters. If the programme didn't exist, it wouldn't need to be presented, non?
And to be really contro-VER-sial, a symphony, concerto or string quartet is already divided up into shorter sections, different tempi and moods. So why are they deemed to be unsuitable for early morning listening? You don't have to stay glued to the radio listening to every movement, and why should you find that essential if you're happy to listen to one isolated movement anyway?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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