The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[kernelbogey]

I thought Hannah French was fine.

Better than that: she has the skill of expressing enthusiasm about a piece without gushing. I imagine she was a good teacher. As someone said upthread, her website is well worth a look.

[LMcD]

Better than that: she has the skill of expressing enthusiasm about a piece without gushing. I imagine she was a good teacher. As someone said upthread, her website is well worth a look.

Agreed!

[muzzer]

Thoughts on Kate Molleson so far this week? Is this a “try-out”?

[Quarky]

Thoughts on Kate Molleson so far this week? Is this a “try-out”?

Kate got off to a duff-start, imv, with The Maid of the Mill overture. But she got better and better, the right sort of music for a start to the day, and I'm currently enjoying the Daily Delia (Derbyshire) Mix.

Let's hope Hanna didn't have to pull off because of her long-term illness.

[LMcD]

Petroc alternating with Kate and/or Hannah - a great combination!

[muzzer]

Very much agree about the Daily Delia, less keen on the folk, of which my anecdata suggests there has been quite a lot. I like folk but it’s not what I listen to Breakfast for. I think KM is a bright voice and very welcome.

[cloughie]

Very much agree about the Daily Delia, less keen on the folk, of which my anecdata suggests there has been quite a lot. I like folk but it’s not what I listen to Breakfast for. I think KM is a bright voice and very welcome.

Maybe I just got a bad one this morning but the Delia piece was dreadful, rather like a Lizzie noise! However I love Kate’s voice and presentation style, Ravel, S-S and Butterworth.

[LMcD]

Butterworth (George), and Barber (Chris) on top form- what's not to like?

[french frank]

Butterworth (George), and Barber (Chris) on top form- what's not to like?

Barber (between Butterworth and Saint-Saëns, not on a jazz programme).

Plus DD as featured composer/performer. And Kit Downes. And Leon Rosselson/Dick Gaughan. And The Voice Squad.

But, as ever, the point at issue is not what I "like", or what anyone else "likes", least of all the presenter. It's about Trading Standards :-) .

[antongould]

Barber (between Butterworth and Saint-Saëns, not on a jazz programme).

Plus DD as featured composer/performer. And Kit Downes. And Leon Rosselson/Dick Gaughan. And The Voice Squad.

But, as ever, the point at issue is not what I "like", or what anyone else "likes", least of all the presenter. It's about Trading Standards :-) .

Have listened off and on throughout the the day and IMVVHO the presenter did very well ........

[french frank]

Have listened off and on throughout the the day and IMVVHO the presenter did very well ........

I don't 'like' presenters the way you do! I just dislike them when they're awful. I have an electric toaster: I'm not pleased with it because it toasts bread but I'd be pretty upset if it didn't.

Just occurred to me: they could swap the 25% of classical works included in the late night programmes with the 25% of non classical on the classical breakfast programme. The non-classical enthusiasts would still be getting good value from Radio 3.

[antongould]

I don't 'like' presenters the way you do! I just dislike them when they're awful. I have an electric toaster: I'm not pleased with it because it toasts bread but I'd be pretty upset if it didn't.

Just occurred to me: they could swap the 25% of classical works included in the late night programmes with the 25% of non classical on the classical breakfast programme. The non-classical enthusiasts would still be getting good value from Radio 3.

You should try liking a presenter ff ..... life affirming....

[Serial_Apologist]

You should try liking a presenter ff ..... life affirming....

For me, not liking and therefore not listening to morning schedules, cherry picking, decontextualising are all of a piece with the manner of the music's presentation, and in total the reason I criticise. Were the music to be presented as it is, or, at least, in the spirit in which it was composed - which means at least attempting to identify the spirit, meaning its context and time - presenters would not be presenting in that condescending way that demeans the listener's intelligence as much as the original inspiration, without which the misrepresented music would never have existed, by implying they can't possibly be intelligent enough to take more on board.

To put on a serious demeanour while hosting music in this particular guise would be a parody. And yet, there was a time when a serious demeanour went hand-in-hand with Radio 3, and Radio 3 with bringing understanding and depth to culture's richest endowments.

This is why I question those who support this type of programming and its presentation: it's analogous to telling the person you've just slept with, "I have to confess, I fell in love with your nose. Nothing else, just your nose. Don't ask me to consider anything else about you; I'm not interested - and from your point of view I will never be able to get my rocks off if you overcomplicate things by telling me all there is to know about yourself". In simple terms, it's all about reductionism - as is so much of the way we're led to approach life, until that is we find out different.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

You should try liking a presenter ff ..... life affirming....

Presenters are way down the list of priorities. It’s the music that matters - not the endless jabbering, chumminess, patronisation, flirtation, padding and semi-accurate information. Personally, I don’t dislike any presenters, but I do dislike the style imposed upon them by their boss.

[Serial_Apologist]

Presenters are way down the list of priorities. It’s the music that matters - not the endless jabbering, chumminess, patronisation, flirtation, padding and semi-accurate information. Personally, I don’t dislike any presenters, but I do dislike the style imposed upon them by their boss.

Of course, one could argue that they don't have to take on the job in the first place. So, what are the pressures to accept what is in effect a dishonest and disingenuous agenda? Does one need to be uninformed in the first place - if so what does this say about education and recruitment? Aren't they are part and parcel of more general pressures in society - to go along with, acquiesce to, in order to fit in with what society in its wisdom chooses to value and in what ways? You have to be able to come up with a pretty coherent critique to be able to stand up to this kind of subliminal bullying; even then speaking out with tact can be a risky undertaking: you may be voting for your own penury; but in the end you can look back and say at least you didn't betray your principles.