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Originally posted by Heldenleben View PostA propos of Sounds Of the Earth does any one agree that mixing natural sounds e,g, birdsong and classical music doesn’t really work? To be the beauties of one fight against the beauties of the other . The audio recording of the cellist and the nightingale constantly rolled out on Radio 3 is one of my least favourite radio cliches . Partly because the cello playing has some poor intonation. On a bigger scale the Rautavarra works are very interesting - once ...There is wonderful blackbird that wakes me up every morning at the moment in the front garden. It is quite pleasant when aleatorically he joins in with Radio 3 but having it mixed together by an engineer is to my ears unnaturally premeditated.
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostI'm surprised that HIPP fanatics don't insist that a scratchy, pre-electric recording of a nightingale is used in The Pines of Rome. After all, "that's what the composer expected".
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostI'm surprised that HIPP fanatics don't insist that a scratchy, pre-electric recording of a nightingale is used in The Pines of Rome. After all, "that's what the composer expected".
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Originally posted by Heldenleben View PostDon’t mind that one so much . Bit ambivalent about Resphigi - I sort of like his stuff but think I shouldn’t ....
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Originally posted by hmvman View PostI believe he was very specific about which record to use.
The Pines of Rome (1924), by Ottorino Respighi (1879 -- 1936). The Milan Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Cav. Lorenzo Molajoli (1868 - 1939), recorded Novem...
Curiously, at exactly the same time that Molajoli was recording the work for Columbia, Ettore Panizza and the Orchestra della Scala di Milano were recording a rival version for Odeon. Unfortunately that isn't on YouTube (yet!) but we must assume they too used the same nightingale 78.
It's also curious that although Bernardino Molinari had given the work its premiere in 1924, it wasn't performed at the Proms until 1986. Happily that is also on YouTube, with Edward Downes and the BBC Philharmonic bringing the house down with Respighi's depiction of ancient Roman legions marching up the Appian way, the bass drum thwacks and the organ pedals at the end causing the Prommers to erupt into a state of extreme excitement ...
Respighi's most popular 'tone poem for orchestra' had its first performance in 1924 yet had to wait over 60 years to receive its Proms Premiere in London's R...
And we still haven't heard the equally spectacular "Church Windows" at the Proms. I wonder if we ever will.
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Originally posted by seabright View PostIndeed he was. The score states: "No. R. 6105 del 'Concert Record' Gramophone: Il canto dell'usignolo" ... Of course, that wasn't the recording we heard on Sunday in the Stokowski performance to mark his birthday on 18th April 1882 and Respighi's death day on 18th April 1936. You can however hear it on YouTube in the 1928 Columbia 78rpm recording made by Lorenzo Molajoli and the Milan Symphony Orchestra. The nightingale comes in just after the 12-minute mark ...
The Pines of Rome (1924), by Ottorino Respighi (1879 -- 1936). The Milan Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Cav. Lorenzo Molajoli (1868 - 1939), recorded Novem...
Curiously, at exactly the same time that Molajoli was recording the work for Columbia, Ettore Panizza and the Orchestra della Scala di Milano were recording a rival version for Odeon. Unfortunately that isn't on YouTube (yet!) but we must assume they too used the same nightingale 78.
It's also curious that although Bernardino Molinari had given the work its premiere in 1924, it wasn't performed at the Proms until 1986. Happily that is also on YouTube, with Edward Downes and the BBC Philharmonic bringing the house down with Respighi's depiction of ancient Roman legions marching up the Appian way, the bass drum thwacks and the organ pedals at the end causing the Prommers to erupt into a state of extreme excitement ...
Respighi's most popular 'tone poem for orchestra' had its first performance in 1924 yet had to wait over 60 years to receive its Proms Premiere in London's R...
And we still haven't heard the equally spectacular "Church Windows" at the Proms. I wonder if we ever will.
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Originally posted by seabright View PostIndeed he was. The score states: "No. R. 6105 del 'Concert Record' Gramophone: Il canto dell'usignolo" ... Of course, that wasn't the recording we heard on Sunday in the Stokowski performance to mark his birthday on 18th April 1882 and Respighi's death day on 18th April 1936. You can however hear it on YouTube in the 1928 Columbia 78rpm recording made by Lorenzo Molajoli and the Milan Symphony Orchestra. The nightingale comes in just after the 12-minute mark ...
The Pines of Rome (1924), by Ottorino Respighi (1879 -- 1936). The Milan Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Cav. Lorenzo Molajoli (1868 - 1939), recorded Novem...
Curiously, at exactly the same time that Molajoli was recording the work for Columbia, Ettore Panizza and the Orchestra della Scala di Milano were recording a rival version for Odeon. Unfortunately that isn't on YouTube (yet!) but we must assume they too used the same nightingale 78.
It's also curious that although Bernardino Molinari had given the work its premiere in 1924, it wasn't performed at the Proms until 1986. Happily that is also on YouTube, with Edward Downes and the BBC Philharmonic bringing the house down with Respighi's depiction of ancient Roman legions marching up the Appian way, the bass drum thwacks and the organ pedals at the end causing the Prommers to erupt into a state of extreme excitement ...
Respighi's most popular 'tone poem for orchestra' had its first performance in 1924 yet had to wait over 60 years to receive its Proms Premiere in London's R...
And we still haven't heard the equally spectacular "Church Windows" at the Proms. I wonder if we ever will.
That's incredible that 'Pines' wasn't performed at the Proms until so comparatively recently. A few years ago I was at a Proms performance of 'Roman Festivals' conducted by John Adams.
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostThere’s a recording on YouTube that claims to be the original one that Respighi used. I suspect it’s a fake, as the frequency response is so good and the background noise is negligible.
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