The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[cloughie]

Whose version of Rach 2 was playing?

This was one of very few works recorded by Sir Simon, long before he became a Sir, with the Los Angeles PO. (Will he become Simon Rattle KBE, and not Sir Simon if he takes up European and not UK citizenship?)

[oddoneout]

You did, you did. And I don't like cake anyway. They were Mr Kipling's French Fancies, weren't they? I suppose that was in my honour.

Actually, I think you inflated our importance it was CR3, not the DG, wasn't it.

Refusing Mr Kipling's cakes isn't the same as refusing free food...
My mother was often bemused by those of her friends who considered it the height of hospitality to put such things out at social gatherings, and I was equally happy to leave them for others.

[underthecountertenor]

I'm really enjoying my 'Breakfast' this morning - a delightful choice of items brought into my house and life by a knowledgeable chap who not only has a voice made for radio but also treats me as an adult and - dare I say it - a friend.

Chacun à son goût. For me he tries to hard to be my friend, and overshares in the process. I really don’t want to hear about the goings on in his pond (complete with anthropomorphic names for the animals) or indeed about how he met X when he was conducting Y.

I find that his weekday counterpart does a far better job of treating me as an adult and keeping it friendly but in a professionally objective way.

But there we are.

[cloughie]

Chacun à son goût. For me he tries to hard to be my friend, and overshares in the process. I really don’t want to hear about the goings on in his pond (complete with anthropomorphic names for the animals) or indeed about how he met X when he was conducting Y.

I find that his weekday counterpart does a far better job of treating me as an adult and keeping it friendly but in a professionally objective way.

But there we are.

Petroc has over the years matured with this job and now fits like a favourite pair of gloves and I also think Georgia when in the role ihas just the right approach and a lovely voice!

[kernelbogey]

Petroc has over the years matured with this job and now fits likeva favourite pair of gloves....

I was thinking similarly warm thoughts this morning (though the gloves metaphor eluded me at the tme). His german pronunciation has improved of late, though Cosi' fan tutte eluded him today!

[vinteuil]

I was thinking similarly warm thoughts this morning (though the gloves metaphor eluded me at the tme). His german pronunciation has improved of late, though Cosi' fan tutte eluded him today!

... and his French pronunciation is excruciating. As is Skellers's. But rather endearingly so. And eminently preferable to Ms Derham's...



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[cloughie]

I was thinking similarly warm thoughts this morning (though the gloves metaphor eluded me at the tme). His german pronunciation has improved of late, though Cosi' fan tutte eluded him today!

That’s the fat finger syndrome - the querty bottom row strain!

[antongould]

... and his French pronunciation is excruciating. As is Skellers's. But rather endearingly so. And eminently preferable to Ms Derham's...



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Don’t worry vints ...... Alkers has magisterial pronunciation ........

[teamsaint]

For all that French and German people speak far better English, in general, than we speak their languages, I doubt honestly that the pronunciation of English by really well educated french and german persons would survive close examination by a R3 style audience .

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Don’t worry vints ...... Alkers has magisterial pronunciation ........

Alkers' pronunciation really isn't an issue. It's everything else.

[Nick Armstrong]

Alkers' pronunciation really isn't an issue. It's everything else.

Yes her way with English has meant I’ve never heard her say anything foreign (I don’t imagine I ever will, either)

[antongould]

Yes her way with English has meant I’ve never heard her say anything foreign (I don’t imagine I ever will, either)

I bet you didn’t appreciate Elsie Tanner ........

[french frank]

For all that French and German people speak far better English, in general, than we speak their languages, I doubt honestly that the pronunciation of English by really well educated french and german persons would survive close examination by a R3 style audience .

I think the average 'really well educated' French or German person doesn't end up as a radio presenter. I can only think that the BBC profiles their desired 'average listener' (in this case to Radio 3) rather than their current listener and fits the presenter to that profile. They want averagely younger listeners (ie younger than 59) who don't know a lot about classical music, so you get c. 40 year olds who also don't know a lot about classical music (don't want to scare people off). If you are over 55 and pretty knowledgeable (or at least have an enquiring mind), you aren't the target audience. Not for Breakfast, not for Essential Classics, not for Classical Fix, Night Tracks, Tearjerker, This Classical Life … But there is some 'live music' served up for you, some of which will interest you.

[Nick Armstrong]

I bet you didn’t appreciate Elsie Tanner ........

Before my time antonio but the accent itself is nothing to do with it!

[gradus]

Before my time antonio but the accent itself is nothing to do with it!

But she was a winner on Pointless, surely that counts for something!