The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[stortoterpsicho]

it'll take more than simply r3 to convert a cultural perception . r5 is aimed at under 30's but is a cultural desert. britpop and mobo is as cultural as it gets.all culture not just classical music should be part of the national debate

[oddoneout]

it'll take more than simply r3 to convert a cultural perception . r5 is aimed at under 30's but is a cultural desert. britpop and mobo is as cultural as it gets.all culture not just classical music should be part of the national debate

If all the arts were a valued part of the National Curriculum it would help. If they are not presented to children as a normal part of life then it becomes very difficult to catch on later.

[stortoterpsicho]

yup in my view it's essential

[Lawrence]

Rubbish indeed. I have more or less given up on R3 Breakfast these days and definitely will no longer be listening to it on Saturdays. I know I'm an Ancient of Days but I'm afraid I simply cannot stand this rubbish, sorry.

[Lawrence]

I try to learn a new word every day, so thanks for that!
(I was actually trying to avoid saying straight out that 'I hate cats', which I do because they kill birds and appear incapable of displaying affection).

As someone said: "Dogs have friends, cats have servants."

[MrGongGong]

If all the arts were a valued part of the National Curriculum it would help. If they are not presented to children as a normal part of life then it becomes very difficult to catch on later.

I think the current narrative of the UK as some kind of cultural Galapagos that has no connection to the rest of Europe doesn't help.


Though the "National Curriculum" doesn't apply to "free" schools or private schools

[Stanfordian]

If all the arts were a valued part of the National Curriculum it would help. If they are not presented to children as a normal part of life then it becomes very difficult to catch on later.

Could not agree more. My wife has fond memories of classical music being played at morning assembly. This has fostered her interest in music. I had no exposure to classical music and I had to investigate it myself.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Could not agree more. My wife has fond memories of classical music being played at morning assembly. This has fostered her interest in music. I had no exposure to classical music and I had to investigate it myself.

Yes. Some schools still do it.

At primary school, I remember the teacher playing the piano as we walked out of assembly. One she played frequently really grabbed my attention. Eventually I found out what it was: the Gavotte from Grieg's Holberg Suite. I didn't hear it again until the suite was a set work for O-level music some years later. But I felt as though I knew it, even so.

[MrGongGong]

Could not agree more. My wife has fond memories of classical music being played at morning assembly. This has fostered her interest in music. I had no exposure to classical music and I had to investigate it myself.

The important thing to remember IMV about these experineces is that those who "discover" music in this way (the school assembly route) are the ones who are really unusual and odd.
The key bit of your statement isn't the fact that classical music was played at school BUT that you were curious enough to investigate what it was.

[antongould]

Rubbish indeed. I have more or less given up on R3 Breakfast these days and definitely will no longer be listening to it on Saturdays. I know I'm an Ancient of Days but I'm afraid I simply cannot stand this rubbish, sorry.

Today to, I am sure, delight all listeners here, Petroc gave us Copland’s Rodeo with potted history, dob .... in fact the works ......

[kernelbogey]

Today to, I am sure, delight all listeners here, Petroc gave us Copland’s Rodeo with potted history, dob .... in fact the works ......

Oh - sorry I missed that!

[Cockney Sparrow]

The important thing to remember IMV about these experineces is that those who "discover" music in this way (the school assembly route) are the ones who are really unusual and odd.

--Sigh -- . Something I've always known really, but as ever Mr GG you bring the stark reality home.....

[MrGongGong]

--Sigh -- . Something I've always known really, but as ever Mr GG you bring the stark reality home.....

Nothing wrong with being odd

[hmvman]

--Sigh -- . Something I've always known really, but as ever Mr GG you bring the stark reality home.....

Same here....

[underthecountertenor]

Today to, I am sure, delight all listeners here, Petroc gave us Copland’s Rodeo with potted history, dob .... in fact the works ......

I was most concerned by the implied threat that, now Petroc knows how Copland pronounced it, he will be playing it again soon so that he can introduce it correctly.