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  • Norfolk Born

    After listening to 'Pick Of The Week', I immediately turned to the iPlayer to listen to two Radio 4 items I'd overlooked: a very funny Afternoon Play, 'The Grudge' (I used to work in the former residence of Spencer Perceval), and the first of David Nobbs's even funnier memoirs, entitled 'With Nobbs On'. Earlier today, on 'BH', there was an interesting feature on Britten's 'War Requiem'.

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8782

      I missed Breakfast this morning being on Grandson duty and thus the daily "feast" of torch music. Does anyone know if Holst's Moorside Suite was played under this banner and if so because of a connection with Moorside, Consett, Co. Durham?

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30283

        Originally posted by antongould View Post
        I missed Breakfast this morning being on Grandson duty and thus the daily "feast" of torch music. Does anyone know if Holst's Moorside Suite was played under this banner and if so because of a connection with Moorside, Consett, Co. Durham?
        It looks as if it was: The Blaydon Races.

        ED: Doh! Read more carefully, ff:

        Gustav Holst March from A Moorside Suite

        Performer: Grimethorpe Colliery RJB Band
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • antongould
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8782

          I never doubted for a minute that you'd be listening ff!

          Having listened on iplayer it seems the connection was in my mind not Holst's!

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          • Bax-of-Delights
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 745

            Tuned in to Breakfast this morning for the first time in a while and was depressingly astonished to see it has become "The Olympic Torch Music Show". The number of references to the route and the requests for suggestions for appropriate music was more or less continuous throughout the 90 minutes I listened, only interspersed with the Top Twenty Show and the Phone-In Show.
            Just one previously unheard piece in all that time - Arnold's Fantasia for Brass Band.

            O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22119

              Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
              Tuned in to Breakfast this morning for the first time in a while and was depressingly astonished to see it has become "The Olympic Torch Music Show". The number of references to the route and the requests for suggestions for appropriate music was more or less continuous throughout the 90 minutes I listened, only interspersed with the Top Twenty Show and the Phone-In Show.
              Just one previously unheard piece in all that time - Arnold's Fantasia for Brass Band.

              What tunes does Goole bring to mind?

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30283

                Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                Tuned in to Breakfast this morning for the first time in a while and was depressingly astonished to see it has become "The Olympic Torch Music Show". The number of references to the route and the requests for suggestions for appropriate music was more or less continuous throughout the 90 minutes I listened, only interspersed with the Top Twenty Show and the Phone-In Show.
                No, you haven't listened for a while, have you?

                I have become quite an authority on the Olympic Torch Route. As an excuse for getting people to text in with musical suggestions (all read out, even though they aren't actually going to be played) it's brilliant: one idea but it goes on for weeks and weeks!

                Full marks last week for playing the piece by John Bevan Baker; no marks for attributing it to Granville Bantock on the playlist (who looks, I thought, not unlike Steve Bowbrick, Radio 3's Head of Digital).



                What with the Olympic Torch suggestions, tweets from people who could recite their 12 times table, news headlines, weather, what the papers say, Your Call, interventions from Suzy Klein and Rob Cowan and a trail for Radio 4, 30+ minutes of this two and a half hour programme is now chatter.

                Chat is probably the only thing that is cheaper than playing CDs, at least on Radio 3 where the talent isn't paid as much as on Radio 1 or Radio 2.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22119

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  No, you haven't listened for a while, have you?

                  I have become quite an authority on the Olympic Torch Route. As an excuse for getting people to text in with musical suggestions (all read out, even though they aren't actually going to be played) it's brilliant: one idea but it goes on for weeks and weeks!

                  Full marks last week for playing the piece by John Bevan Baker; no marks for attributing it to Granville Bantock on the playlist (who looks, I thought, not unlike Steve Bowbrick, Radio 3's Head of Digital).



                  What with the Olympic Torch suggestions, tweets from people who could recite their 12 times table, news headlines, weather, what the papers say, Your Call, interventions from Suzy Klein and Rob Cowan and a trail for Radio 4, 30+ minutes of this two and a half hour programme is now chatter.

                  Chat is probably the only thing that is cheaper than playing CDs, at least on Radio 3 where the talent isn't paid as much as on Radio 1 or Radio 2.
                  I take it you used that word guardedly!

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30283

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    I take it you used that word guardedly!
                    It's media-speak: presenters are referred to generically as 'talent' in the industry. I've queried why 'talent' (with reference to BBC employees) doesn't include the musicians of the BBC Performing Groups. But apparently it's because they're not presenters. (The wrong sort of talent.)
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22119

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      It's media-speak: presenters are referred to generically as 'talent' in the industry. I've queried why 'talent' (with reference to BBC employees) doesn't include the musicians of the BBC Performing Groups. But apparently it's because they're not presenters. (The wrong sort of talent.)
                      You mean real.

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                      • Osborn

                        Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                        Just one previously unheard piece in all that time - Arnold's Fantasia for Brass Band.
                        Just eighteen previously unheard pieces in all that time.

                        However, I am disappointed that we aren't getting regular updates on the football from a panel of imported experts and eggheads.

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                        • doversoul1
                          Ex Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7132

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          It's media-speak: presenters are referred to generically as 'talent' in the industry. I've queried why 'talent' (with reference to BBC employees) doesn't include the musicians of the BBC Performing Groups. But apparently it's because they're not presenters. (The wrong sort of talent.)
                          That’s interesting (or worrying). The word ‘talent’ was used in the Japanese media to mean ‘celebrities’ long before the concept of ‘celebrity’ set in. Celebrities in the sense that it’s their personality rather than their art that count. Not a good sign…
                          Last edited by doversoul1; 19-06-12, 10:48.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37676

                            Until women objected, "talent" often referred to, er, them - in view of the recent controversies over the BBC not using women presenters of beyond a certain age, it's ironic to see its return within the meeja field.

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                            • Ferretfancy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3487

                              At one time this morning we got The Archers sig tune followed by a parody of a patter song from HMS Pinafore by Tom Lerher, and the last two movements of a Mozart Violin Concerto which was back announced as complete. This is really the end! They certainly cannot possibly make it any worse

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22119

                                Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                                At one time this morning we got The Archers sig tune followed by a parody of a patter song from HMS Pinafore by Tom Lerher, and the last two movements of a Mozart Violin Concerto which was back announced as complete. This is really the end! They certainly cannot possibly make it any worse
                                Ladbrokes may give odds that it could!

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