The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[Serial_Apologist]

One of the problems with the pick'n'mix approach is that when something is heard that does arouse interest, following it up may prove more of a challenge than was assumed. Not because it is difficult these days to find such things but because for someone coming at it from the likes of pop albums has to face the fact that they won't get 'more of the same' in the way they might expect. Earlier this year I read something, in an article that was partly about such issues, about a lad who'd decided to find if there were any more tracks like Nessun Dorma, which he'd rather taken a shine to. He located the opera, but then was flummoxed by not being able to find either that track, or any similar ones, as he'd been expecting. It's a similar situation to those who refer to Katherine Jenkins as an opera singer...
There will be those who hear an isolated item who go on to find out more and may discover a world they knew nothing of and wish to continue exploring. There will also be others who hear the one movement of, eg a symphony, that catches their attention, listen to the rest( or some of perhaps) and then continue to listen to just the one movement they first heard, as that's the bit they like. I came across this when I was a student and one of my flatmates had watched the film 'A Touch of Class'; I had a recording of LvB 7, but I couldn't persuade her to finish listening to the other movements, she just wanted the 'film music'. Moving forward almost 50 years, a choir friend is another who will only listen to parts of works, hence her preference for CFM I suppose.

This really started in the 60s when LPs would be issue with titles such as "Purple Passages from Your Favourite Classics" - usually things like The Ride of the Valkyries and the slow movement from the Concierto de Aranjuez. They were cheap releases and would often turn up in the remainders racks outside record shops. Jazz labels released (and for all I know continue to release) composites consisting of different tracks available from current and past releases - but in that case the aim was curiosity about the LPs concerned, and often succeeded; but in such cases the tracks were not extrapolated excerpts arbitrarily divorced from complete artifacts, like a detail caught on camera from a film or painting, but unrepeatable moments to be succoured as they were experienced.

[smittims]

I put Breakfast on today just to see what was on while baking croissants: a somnolent piece for choir and cello, a Bach prelude without its fugue (presumably too intellectual) and after the news, Meditation from Thais . It really was starting to sound like 'your smoochiest adagios' or 'Classical Calm' so I switched off. I don't know how Petroc stays awake. Perhaps he doesn't listen.

[LMcD]

I put Breakfast on today just to see what was on while baking croissants: a somnolent piece for choir and cello, a Bach prelude without its fugue (presumably too intellectual) and after the news, Meditation from Thais . It really was starting to sound like 'your smoochiest adagios' or 'Classical Calm' so I switched off. I don't know how Petroc stays awake. Perhaps he doesn't listen.

Perhaps somebody will take pity on him and bring forward his move to In Tune.
There are quite a few candidates for the title 'Most Frequently Aired Bleeding Chunk', including the Adagietto from Mahler's 5th Symphony, the 2nd movement of Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 21 and the 1st movement of Beethoven's 'Moonlight' Sonata..

[Serial_Apologist]

I put Breakfast on today just to see what was on while baking croissants: a somnolent piece for choir and cello, a Bach prelude without its fugue (presumably too intellectual) and after the news, Meditation from Thais . It really was starting to sound like 'your smoochiest adagios' or 'Classical Calm' so I switched off. I don't know how Petroc stays awake. Perhaps he doesn't listen.

He actually gave factual misinformation yesterday first thing, which I just managed to catch before realising I had woken up! A pity I didn't make a note of it.

[smittims]

Oh, I'm used to that with Petroc. I well recall an 'etood' (sic) by Rachmaninov that turned out to be a prelude, and was afterwards again described as an 'etood'. But at least he's more accurate that K-t-e D-r--m.

[Old Grumpy]

Oh, I'm used to that with Petroc. I well recall an 'etood' (sic) by Rachmaninov that turned out to be a prelude, and was afterwards again described as an 'etood'. But at least he's more accurate that K-t-e D-r--m.

Surely that would have been a preelood

[antongould]

Just caught up with last Saturday’s Breakfast presented by someone new, to me at least, Mark Forrest. I see his had very wide experience as a presenter and, again to me at least, it showed, a very easy warm style ….. I see he was on again yesterday as Emma remains under the duvet ….

[french frank]

Just caught up with last Saturday’s Breakfast presented by someone new, to me at least, Mark Forrest. I see his had very wide experience as a presenter and, again to me at least, it showed, a very easy warm style ….. I see he was on again yesterday as Emma remains under the duvet ….

Did he utter any nuggets of musical insight you'd care to share with us? Or was his warm style enough on a cold morning in northerly Britain?

[antongould]

Did he utter any nuggets of musical insight you'd care to share with us? Or was his warm style enough on a cold morning in northerly Britain?

To me he seemed knowledgeable but then Katie Durham seems knowledgeable to me and I have to admit I have not yet warmed to Emma ….. it’s scarily mild up here and he’s a sheep farmer so needs the extra money for his inheritance tax bills

[oddoneout]

Did he utter any nuggets of musical insight you'd care to share with us? Or was his warm style enough on a cold morning in northerly Britain?

Funny you should mention nuggets... One of the carols* we are singing today contains this gem "Nor is the golden nugget withholden" and, together with the reference to cheese in an earlier verse, we have been taking a less than serious approach to it. MaccyD tends to spring to mind.

*Past 3 o'clock

[french frank]

he’s a sheep farmer so needs the extra money for his inheritance tax bills

I see he comes to R3 from Scala Radio (now renamed Magical Classical).

In composing my letter to Co-op Food over our new branch's 'food' now consisting of - at a conservative guess - 75% junk food, fast food, snacks, processed and ultraprocessed foods, ready meals, mass produced pizzas, festive sweets and chocolates and more, I realise I shall be unpopular with the public as well as the Co-op because: It's what people want. It really is. Carry on R3 - Rajar beckons.

[Pulcinella]

I see he comes to R3 from Scala Radio (now renamed Magical Classical).

In composing my letter to Co-op Food over our new branch's 'food' now consisting of - at a conservative guess - 75% junk food, fast food, snacks, processed and ultraprocessed foods, ready meals, mass produced pizzas, festive sweets and chocolates and more, I realise I shall be unpopular with the public as well as the Co-op because: It's what people want. It really is. Carry on R3 - Rajar beckons.

But, like the Co-op, it should be thought of as owned by us and therefore we should perhaps have a say in how it's run.
At least I get to choose a local charity though every so often.
And being a member got me and my partner £50 (each) off our Direct Cremation funeral plans we took out in November.
What deals do we get from R3 that can compare.

[kernelbogey]

It's what people want. It really is....

Is it?

Isn't a definition of marketing 'persuading people to buy [consume] what they didn't know they needed'?

Supermarkets are good at that. The J*cks*n touch, too, I'd say.

[LMcD]

But, like the Co-op, it should be thought of as owned by us and therefore we should perhaps have a say in how it's run.
At least I get to choose a local charity though every so often.
And being a member got me and my partner £50 (each) off our Direct Cremation funeral plans we took out in November.
What deals do we get from R3 that can compare.

If i may briefly stray off-topic: our large local Co-op store, which I haven't used for ages because it simply isn't competitive and is annoyingly understaffed, is closing after Christmas and leasing the premises to Sainsbury's. The smaller local Co-ops will continue to trade as normal as far as I know.

[french frank]

I didn't want to take this usually highly focused thread off topic but I was struck by the fact that my newly built Co-op (next to the crumbling one next door) has in the past few weeks provided a parallel with R3, in that I've abandoned both. I've been prompted to write to Co-op Food (am I repeating myself? ) by the report saying diet-related diseases cost the country an estimated £268bn annually, caused by 'junk food addiction'. So yes, some people do want it, just as evidence here is that some people do want what's fed to them by Radio 3.