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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8500

    Originally posted by smittims View Post
    I've mentioned all this to an old acquaintance and he shrugged his shoulders and said 'if you've got CDs, you don't need Radio 3'. Bunker-mentality or not, that is where thinking people are going.
    Your reference to a bunker brought to mind Wolfgang Busch, the resident stormtrooper on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In whose appearances were, of course, always 'very interesting'.

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22139

      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

      So much of Radio 3's music programming has now become so disconnected and de-contextualised that it makes little sense, thus it would come as no surprise if Radio 3 tuners merely had it on as a kind of musical wallpaper.
      Or maybe bland beige emulsion! I think it probably is - can’t confirm as I rarely bother to switch it on nowadays.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6819

        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        I've mentioned all this to an old acquaintance and he shrugged his shoulders and said 'if you've got CDs, you don't need Radio 3'. Bunker-mentality or not, that is where thinking people are going.
        yes but they’re playing Walking The Dog for the millionth time today and I don’t have that in my CD collection. (thankfully)

        just listening to what I initially thought was the worst performance of the Chopin Op 25 C minor etude I’d ever heard only to realise it’s the Godowsky version for left hand only - played superbly . Now that’s precisely the experience that can’t be repeated from a CD collection .

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        • kernelbogey
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5762

          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

          The thing is, our generation were educated, in part by Radio 3 As She Was, to listen and learn discriminately....


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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9222

            Originally posted by smittims View Post
            I've mentioned all this to an old acquaintance and he shrugged his shoulders and said 'if you've got CDs, you don't need Radio 3'. Bunker-mentality or not, that is where thinking people are going.
            I only have about 100 CDs so that isn't much of a solution!
            However what I'm finding increasingly unacceptable about the current situation is that a station that is publicly funded to provide a certain type of content is using that funding to provide something else altogether - a slightly more advanced version of CFM instead. Don't take the(my) money and withhold the goods...

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            • smittims
              Full Member
              • Aug 2022
              • 4221

              It is indeed getting more like CFM all the time. I can foresee that soon the only time they will play a complete classical work of any length will be in some late-evening ghetto programme . Even TTN has started playing 'snippets', such as the first movement of the Italian Symphny and the slow movement of a Nielsen quartet.

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              • AuntDaisy
                Host
                • Jun 2018
                • 1677

                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                It is indeed getting more like CFM all the time. I can foresee that soon the only time they will play a complete classical work of any length will be in some late-evening ghetto programme . Even TTN has started playing 'snippets', such as the first movement of the Italian Symphony and the slow movement of a Nielsen quartet.
                You're right smittims, I'd missed that - both were when Ester was on...

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9222

                  Originally posted by smittims View Post
                  It is indeed getting more like CFM all the time. I can foresee that soon the only time they will play a complete classical work of any length will be in some late-evening ghetto programme . Even TTN has started playing 'snippets', such as the first movement of the Italian Symphny and the slow movement of a Nielsen quartet.
                  And is it just me or are there more shorter(some very short) albeit complete pieces now, not just when the focus is Baroque? I don't listen regularly, only when sleep eludes me and I need something for my brain to focus on, but then I do tend to notice frequent changes if they occur as it doesn't work as well as a longer piece on the distraction front .

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                  • LMcD
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8500

                    Let's celebrate the success of Radio 3's Young Artists scheme by playing a recording of one of its most celebrated alumni, Simon Trpceski, playing ... the last quarter of Rachmaninov's Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini.

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                    • AuntDaisy
                      Host
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 1677

                      Hannah French posted on Twitter from a cold studio this morning... Who's been eating my porridge?

                      Hannah French @hannahcfrench
                      Morning @BBCRadio3! There's a chilly northerly wind today. It's necessitated THE BEAR coat.
                      Music to get you moving and warm your heart this morning on Breakfast from Bach before 7 to NGAs and Breakfast Brass, get the kettle on and join us!
                      6:21 AM · Nov 19, 2024 · 2,113 Views

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                      • JSTJST
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2024
                        • 1

                        Weekday Breakfast is my most listened to R3 programme - well put together, well presented by Petroc (& others). I miss Martin Handley on Sundays.
                        What increasingly spoils the programme, and many others, is the increased number and length of TRAILERS throughout the programme. I often reach for the off switch and may not turn back on.
                        Maybe the trailers represent a net loss of listeners rather than any gain.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30344

                          Originally posted by JSTJST View Post
                          Weekday Breakfast is my most listened to R3 programme - well put together, well presented by Petroc (& others). I miss Martin Handley on Sundays.
                          What increasingly spoils the programme, and many others, is the increased number and length of TRAILERS throughout the programme. I often reach for the off switch and may not turn back on.
                          Maybe the trailers represent a net loss of listeners rather than any gain.
                          Welcome JSTJST! Most listeners agree with your view on the programme trails. Opinion divided on the programme itself - hence the "Eternal Debate" which started on the old BBC messageboard some time before 2010. Let th debate continue ...
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • smittims
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                            • Aug 2022
                            • 4221

                            One thing that does annoy me about trailers is that the presenters have clearly been told to introduce the next item of music before playing the trailer separating it from the work itself, thus compelling you to listen to the trailer or miss the start of the music. .

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8500

                              Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                              Hannah French posted on Twitter from a cold studio this morning... Who's been eating my porridge?


                              Northerly winds tend to be chilly, I've found.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37718

                                Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                                Northerly winds tend to be chilly, I've found.


                                Chilly bon-bons!

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