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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 8458

    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
    From the My First Car section of the Yorkshire Post Weekend Magazine:

    "Popular Classical music presenter from BBC Radio 3, Elizabeth Alker..."
    BBC Radio 3 is well on the way to becoming 'The Home Of Popular Classical Music' - RVW's Lark is ascending yet again at the moment.

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9184

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post

      BBC Radio 3 is well on the way to becoming 'The Home Of Popular Classical Music' - RVW's Lark is ascending yet again at the moment.
      I only turned on partway through the RVW, but looking at the playlist so far does little to contradict that observation.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6779

        Originally posted by LMcD View Post

        BBC Radio 3 is well on the way to becoming 'The Home Of Popular Classical Music' - RVW's Lark is ascending yet again at the moment.
        Classic FM ‘s Best Tune for years in a row and , as you say , very overplayed .
        More Larks on the radio than there on the average farm . And vastly more cuckoos come to that.
        They have just played the Oboe Concerto on Sunday Morning- that rarely gets an outing

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 10921

          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

          Classic FM ‘s Best Tune for years in a row and , as you say , very overplayed .
          More Larks on the radio than there on the average farm . And vastly more cuckoos come to that.
          They have just played the Oboe Concerto on Sunday Morning- that rarely gets an outing
          Still less the Violin concerto (Concerto accademico) or indeed the Concerto grosso, though I'm happy for the Oboe concerto to be given an airing.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30281

            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
            Classic FM ‘s Best Tune for years in a row and , as you say , very overplayed .
            Sadly, for today's R3 managers, that appears to be the reason to play it rather than not. Go on, play it again, Sam.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • LMcD
              Full Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 8458

              [QUOTE=french frank;n1321320]

              Sadly, for today's R3 managers, that appears to be the reason to play it rather than not. Go on, play it again, Sam.[/QUOTE]

              As Time Goes By, he certainly will.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30281

                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                As Time Goes By, he certainly will.
                Last edited by french frank; 20-10-24, 09:57. Reason: Edited faulty quote
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22119

                  Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                  BBC Radio 3 is well on the way to becoming 'The Home Of Popular Classical Music' - RVW's Lark is ascending yet again at the moment.
                  I don’t tire of hearing it - but then I choose when I want to listen to it by largely abandoned listening to R3!

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6779

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                    I don’t tire of hearing it - but then I choose when I want to listen to it by largely abandoned listening to R3!
                    I’m tired of hearing it. Not least because it’s just a few chords and then an extended violin improv . It just doesn’t go anywhere - sounds nice though. I honestly think it’s one of his weakest works but what do I know ?

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                    • smittims
                      Full Member
                      • Aug 2022
                      • 4141

                      Well, I don't know what you know but I don't think that's a fair description of the piece. There is more to it than that: the middle section for instance. And I think the apparently static nature of the work is intentional , as is , for instance,the second movement of Beethoven's violin concerto: they're both about 'being' rather than 'becoming'.

                      I've never thought of it as overplayed, perhaps because I don't listen ot CFM and not much to R3, or because I can remember a time when there was no available recording in the UK, (between the deletion of Boult 1 and the issue of Boult 2.)

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37671

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        Well, I don't know what you know but I don't think that's a fair description of the piece. There is more to it than that: the middle section for instance. And I think the apparently static nature of the work is intentional , as is , for instance,the second movement of Beethoven's violin concerto: they're both about 'being' rather than 'becoming'.
                        My interpretation as well: VW's idea of what music could be expressing were it not for the complexity of his and our hyper-mediated, hyper-complex age, which he (and other great 20th century mystically-inclined artists) confronted elsewhere in his music.

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                        • hmvman
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1099

                          Originally posted by smittims View Post
                          ... I can remember a time when there was no available recording in the UK, (between the deletion of Boult 1 and the issue of Boult 2.)
                          I hadn't realised that was the situation at one time. Seems absolutely incredible now!

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                          • smittims
                            Full Member
                            • Aug 2022
                            • 4141

                            Yes, ironically I had to wait for the start of Radio 3 to hear it at all!

                            The Bean/Boult has for so long been regarded as the classic recording that listeners may imagine they'd been playing it together for years, but in fact when Sir Adrian asked Hugh Bean to record it he said he didn't know it and had to learn it for the session.

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8458

                              Originally posted by smittims View Post
                              Yes, ironically I had to wait for the start of Radio 3 to hear it at all!

                              The Bean/Boult has for so long been regarded as the classic recording that listeners may imagine they'd been playing it together for years, but in fact when Sir Adrian asked Hugh Bean to record it he said he didn't know it and had to learn it for the session.
                              First recorded in 1928, with 78 rpm sets being issued in the 1940s and early 1950s.

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9184

                                Petroc was very careful to do the spoiler alert when reporting the result of the YM finals, but rather undermined it by playing the winner performing something from an earlier round and then back announcing it with the information that the player was the winner...

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