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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22182

    Originally posted by mercia View Post
    well if we'd had the whole of SS3 we wouldn't have had time for the ER, RRB or FB
    Fine, cut the cloth to make the garment. A three and a quarter four progamme should be able to accommodate a 33 minute work!

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    • Don Petter

      Originally posted by mercia View Post
      time to concede and just enjoy
      I may enjoy the music, but not the CFM philosophy that a work of multiple parts should be thought of as 'just the popular bit'.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30456

        Like to contemplate RW's total rewright of weekday mornings back in 2001 (Tues 14 August), two years after he took over?

        6am Morning on 3 (replacing On Air), nb shorter works may have been included as fillers:
        Dyson: Rhapsody No 3
        6.45 Paisiello: Piano Concerto No 7 in A
        7am Palestrina: Stabat Mater
        7.40 Falla: Four Spanish Pieces
        8am Beethoven: Leonora 3
        8.40 Ravel: Rapsodie espagnole
        9am Composer of the Week (brought forward from midday to its old time):
        Johann Sebastian Bach: 2 Bach the Intellectual (music titles available on request)
        10am Work in Progress: The artist John Keane reflects on the new directions his work has taken. Keane was the official artist for the Gulf War [...]
        10.05 CD Masters with Jonathan Swain:
        Poulenc: Suite française
        Schütz: St Matthew Passion (exc)
        Poulenc: Double piano concerto
        11am Morning Performance: Live from the Edinburgh Festival
        Mozart: Quintet in E flat, K 452, C. Zacharias and principal winds of the SCO
        11.40 Twenty Minutes: Inside Schubert's head
        Pianist Susan Tomes explores the complex process of interpreting music
        12pm Morning Performance Part 2:
        Beethoven: Quintet in E flat, Op 16
        1pm News, followed by the Radio 3 Lunchtime Concert
        A recital by Freddy Kempf (repeat).
        Liszt: Transcendental Etudes


        Oh, Roger, Roger - weep with those who weep ...
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Frances_iom
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2415

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Like to contemplate RW's total rewright of weekday mornings back in 2001 (Tues 14 August), two years after he took over?
          ...
          Oh, Roger, Roger - weep with those who weep ...
          Roger and his wrecking ball - probably gets gong next year for services to 'popular' culture (aka dumbing down)

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          • mercia
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            nb shorter works may have been included as fillers
            they must have been. Leonora 3 doesn't last 35 minutes.

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            • mercia
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8920

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Oh, Roger, Roger - weep with those who weep
              sounds like a madrigal by Wilbye

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              • mercia
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                6am Morning on 3 (replacing On Air), nb shorter works may have been included as fillers:
                Dyson: Rhapsody No 3
                6.45 Paisiello: Piano Concerto No 7 in A
                7am Palestrina: Stabat Mater
                7.40 Falla: Four Spanish Pieces
                8am Beethoven: Leonora 3
                8.40 Ravel: Rapsodie espagnole
                9am Composer of the Week (brought forward from midday to its old time):
                Johann Sebastian Bach: 2 Bach the Intellectual (music titles available on request)
                10am Work in Progress: The artist John Keane reflects on the new directions his work has taken. Keane was the official artist for the Gulf War [...]
                10.05 CD Masters with Jonathan Swain:
                Poulenc: Suite française
                Schütz: St Matthew Passion (exc)
                Poulenc: Double piano concerto
                11am Morning Performance: Live from the Edinburgh Festival
                Mozart: Quintet in E flat, K 452, C. Zacharias and principal winds of the SCO
                11.40 Twenty Minutes: Inside Schubert's head
                Pianist Susan Tomes explores the complex process of interpreting music
                12pm Morning Performance Part 2:
                Beethoven: Quintet in E flat, Op 16
                1pm News, followed by the Radio 3 Lunchtime Concert
                A recital by Freddy Kempf (repeat).
                Liszt: Transcendental Etudes
                I'm not sure if this is being put to me as a good or bad schedule

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30456

                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  I'm not sure if this is being put to me as a good or bad schedule
                  You make up your own mind on that. It depends if you want the light chat, ill-informed celebrity comment and background music or something more substantial. Radio 3's mornings are sufficiently bad for me that I don't listen at all, and as a result hardly ever listen to R3 either. The old schedule had me glued to the radio for most of the morning.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • kernelbogey
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5803

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    [...] Radio 3's mornings are sufficiently bad for me that I don't listen at all, and as a result hardly ever listen to R3 either[...]
                    I entirely agree - my experience too, excepting TTN.

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                    • mercia
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8920

                      how can one tell if a programme is bad if one doesn't listen to it ......... I wonder.

                      if 14 August 2001 was typical, things have somewhat improved in the intervening years

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                      • antongould
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8833

                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        how can one tell if a programme is bad if one doesn't listen to it ......... I wonder
                        You have to wonder surely.............but then those of us that do listen are not to be trusted?

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                        • Don Petter

                          Originally posted by mercia View Post
                          how can one tell if a programme is bad if one doesn't listen to it ......... I wonder.
                          Surely the way one decides whether to go to a particular concert or not - Does it have music which one wants to hear?

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                          • Roehre

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            You make up your own mind on that. It depends if you want the light chat, ill-informed celebrity comment and background music or something more substantial. Radio 3's mornings are sufficiently bad for me that I don't listen at all, and as a result hardly ever listen to R3 either. The old schedule had me glued to the radio for most of the morning.
                            Could have been my reply

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22182

                              Originally posted by mercia View Post
                              how can one tell if a programme is bad if one doesn't listen to it ......... I wonder.

                              if 14 August 2001 was typical, things have somewhat improved in the intervening years
                              Scan the schedules and pick and mix from iplayer Simples!

                              What are your criteria for claiming they've improved?

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                I'm not entirely convinced that people check the playlist for Breakfast before deciding not to listen to it, but fair enough, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt

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